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Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by mixmastamyk »

exodust wrote: post #72

Won't be updating beyond FF 55.0.3 because 'Status-4-Evar' add-on doesn't work with Quantum. Apparently it can't be updated to work with Quantum for reasons I don't know, but was mentioned on the support forum. Until such time as I can prevent the annoying floating URL pop-up in bottom corner when hovering over links, I won't be updating. I don't see why I can't have a harmless fixed status bar extending 100% at bott…

Used to prefer the status bar but am sort of used to not having it now. But I think the new way is broken also. Don't see why I have to look down to see the link target. Why can't it be a tooltip at the mouse pointer, perhaps below any alt text?

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by cpeterso »

superdaniel wrote: post #141

cmd+f,"u2f" or "webauth" Nothing.. I wonder when they'll ever get to fully supporting u2f (probably via webauth) so I don't have to use Chrome to log into certain websites.

Mozilla will ship the Webauthn API in Firefox 60 (May 9):

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/01/using-hardware-token-based...

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by the_grue »

jimktrains2 wrote: post #103
the_grue wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know why you are being downvoted. I have the same problem. I'm still stuck with Firefox 56 and no upgrade path in sight. I wish Mozilla declared FF 56 a LTS release for those of us who value their addons more than performance benefits of Quantum. Right now I'm still using an out-of-date release that doesn't receive critical security updates, and I have to choose between either downgrading 4 releases down to F…

The thing that kept me from upgrading was TreeStyleTabs, but there is a non-XUL version of it which works fairly well. While it is a pain, it's not as if Mozilla removed XUL support with no warning. What addons are you missing? Perhaps we can find updates or replacements?

For me it's EdgeWise, Session Manager, DownThemAll, Status-4-Evar.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by Silhouette »

jerheinze wrote: post #157
Silhouette wrote: post #143

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Not really. I gave up Firefox (as my main browser; I'm a web dev so use all of the major ones regularly anyway) because the main thing keeping me there was its extensibility, and that advantage went away. Firefox was and remains slower, less reliable, and less capable than Chrome, and IME has actually become worse in those respects as well since Quantum.

> Firefox was and remains slower Did you try out the Firefox Nightly with WebRender enabled?

No, but somehow I get the feeling we're talking about entirely different levels of "slower" here.

You're talking about GPU-accelerating complicated page renders.

I'm talking about things like regularly seeing flashes of unstyled content on page load, which I thought we'd left behind somewhere in the last millennium.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by Santosh83 »

sixothree wrote: post #125
Santosh83 wrote: post #11

Although its a minor thing, I'm personally delighted with drag & drop for the new tab tiles. These are the kind of little usability improvements that can tip the finely balanced scales between major browsers these days.

Tab Tiles?

Top sites tiles on the new tab page in Firefox.

https://www.mozilla.org/media/img/firefox/home/new-tab.a1c9f...

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by the_grue »

WalterGR wrote: post #160
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #112

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I miss Tab Groups, FWIW. Why does it matter if they're on GitHub? Firefox no longer has the APIs for many of these extensions to be possible.

Why does it matter if they're on GitHub? I'm not OP, but usually the conversation goes like this: Person 1: Person 2: It's open source. Have you submitted a patch yet?

I don't have an example handy, but when FF 57 was first released, I actually took the effort to check what are the prospects of extensions I use in future FF versions. I found at least one extension which required a feature that FF developers refused to fix because it would expose APIs they didn't want to expose, end of story. So it's not just a matter of "scratching your own itch", a lot of it is politics.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by jerheinze »

Silhouette wrote: post #164
jerheinze wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Firefox was and remains slower Did you try out the Firefox Nightly with WebRender enabled?

No, but somehow I get the feeling we're talking about entirely different levels of "slower" here. You're talking about GPU-accelerating complicated page renders. I'm talking about things like regularly seeing flashes of unstyled content on page load, which I thought we'd left behind somewhere in the last millennium.

> I'm talking about things like regularly seeing flashes of unstyled content on page load

Never seen on my end for quiet some time, maybe worth a bug report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by abiox »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #114
MikkoFinell wrote: post #78

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Better stay away from the evil Mozilla corporation, and instead use one of those other, more privacy-aware, browsers like Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge.

It's okay to do bad things so long as your main competition is worse?

wrt to satisfying every single extant ideological constraint that determines 'good' or 'bad', yes. a pragmatic assessment is that, due to it not being possible to satisfy contradicting constraints, it is thusly 'okay' to not do the impossible.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by magnetic »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #146
magnetic wrote: post #136

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Is there a way to trigger a full screen screenshot via Selenium/WebDriver? (not a partial/window screenshot - that I can do)

If I'm understanding correctly, could you just select the body tag and screenshot that? In Selenium Python that'd be: # driver is a Firefox driver body = driver.find_element_by_tag_name('body') screenshot = body.screenshot_as_base64 # png bytes

Just tried this - doesn't seem to work:

- a lot of (visible) elements are missing

- the screenshot is still cropped to whatever viewport is used

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by flamtap »

youseecomrade wrote: post #90
grok2 wrote: post #79

After I switched to Firefox 59 beta on Windows (7 upgraded to 10), I see the following issue all the time. When accessing finance.google.com in one tab and etrade.com (internal page) in another, if I am on finance.google.com and if it refreshes and is slow for some reason I start seeing a blank page with a spinner on that tab and while this is happening, if I switch to the etrade.com tab, I see that page is blank too…

Not sure it's related but a lot of Google's sites are terrible on Firefox and Edge. IIRC they are using polyfills for some heavy stuff (if you assume no malice, that's probably the cause of many problems). https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox https://support.mozilla.org/ Try using safe-mode https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-is... or maybe creating a new profile. The beta versions, just like Chromi…

I've had trouble accessing the Google Analytics dashboard(s) in FF as well. Nothing gets rendered except the background gradient.

In the interest of not using Chrome though, when I run into such issues I use Brave as it's Chromium-based and thus allows me to side-step those problems.

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