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Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS

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Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS

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Post by heimindanger »

JaimeThompson wrote: post #160

What steps are being done to combat the doxing of individualists on DTube? DTube doesn't have much of a mainstream future if it becomes a haven for people harassing others / posting their personal information.

I believe the same applies to steemit.com. Well once something gets written on the blockchain, it's hard to remove it. The DTube domain (that we control) would always be able to block certain videos in extreme cases, but the videos would still be on IPFS.

And there isn't much we can do about that, it's the same case as when someone gets seeded on torrent. You can find the nodes seeding a particular content by doing ipfs dht findprovs , then you get their ips and you go after them legally.

Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS

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Post by Miner49er »

dom96 wrote: post #150

So this is pretty amazing. But how in the world are they going to survive the obvious issues such as copyright violations?

Isn't that the point behind this? It can't be censored. You don't do anything, because you can't do anything.

Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS

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Post by arghwhat »

diggan wrote: post #80
TekMol wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it uses IPFS as a storage backend, then why is it faster to watch the video on the website then via IPFS as hobofan did? This seems to be an indication they store that data on a server all the time.

By default, when making requests to the HTTP gateway, it'll cache the content requested until a GC runs. So it's possible that the local node you're using, have not seen the content before so it needs to go out and fetch it while the gateway d.tube uses, already has the content fetched and only needs to serve it. Of course, the second time you load the content (or if another node on your local network already loaded…

Furthermore, being behind a CDN, the CDN might be caching some resources at their edges for additional performance improvement.

(I believe someone stated DTube was running behind a CDN.)

Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS

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Post by nannal »

skrowl wrote: post #153
heimindanger wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good old website? No. We don't need the domain, you can take the https://github.com/dtube/production repository, ipfs add -r it on ipfs, and use DTube this way -> https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmRWPnY8h7Eg4v74GtKT6UBy2kUAN139QwYPUrg... (few bugs but it works apart from /home not being rendered on first load, you need to click the logo) What is decentralised: - The website (its fully static and can be hosted on ipfs) - The v…

Here does "decentralized" also mean "censorship-resistant"? In light of YouTube censoring perfectly legal videos for wrongthink, I think it could be a big win for you to also come out as only censoring when there's a legal basis.

Videos can be hidden in the UI but only via enough downvotes from the community, even then the video and its hash is still on the blockchain and available via ipfs.

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Post by coldacid »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #137
jwildeboer wrote: post #28

Interesting idea, but unfortunately (and as expected) full of antisemitic and „new world order“ conspiracy stuff by people that claim YouTube is censoring them.

That's just a natural consequence of building a censorship-free platform; many of your early adopters are going to be people who find freedom from censorship to be particularly valuable to them. Tor, Monero, etc all suffer from basically the same problem. Ultimately, if you value freedom from censorship, you shouldn't let the association with others who share that value (though perhaps for different, less noble reaso…

>Tor, Monero, etc all suffer from basically the same problem.

Is the desire for freedom from censorship even actually a problem?

Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS

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Post by heimindanger »

synctext wrote: post #22
RandomInteger4 wrote: post #12

Steem looked like an interesting idea, but your content lives and dies with the platform's whales, which are either insiders or a few people who believe in the platform. If the whales don't interact with your content, you're not likely to get much revenue. You voting power -- the amount you contribute to content you interact with -- is directly tied to your steem power, so unless you put money into the platform or ma…

> Also worth noting that the whole steem platform on the currency end of things is completely centralized This is a central Youtube-like clone it seems. I can't scale in bandwidth and has a central governance model. Plus the coin is worthless: "The number of Steem available is set to double annually, making its supply growth exponential - a possible drag on its future value in the market" https://www.investopedia.com…

The STEEM blockchain is not centralized, and the governance is done through voting witnesses (people running the steem source code). There are hundreds of people running it => https://steemit.com/~witnesses

Also the supply is not set to double every year, this source is completly outdated. This model was changed more than a year ago. Current inflation rate is 9.5% per year, reducing by 0.5% per year until it reaches 1% per year (I believe)

The coin isn't worthless at all... It's publicly traded at around 3$ today on many exchanges.

Lastly the quote about IPFS is mine, and I actually believe we will be able to make people seed the video they are currently watching through our embed player soon, thanks to the progress of js-ipfs.

Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS

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Post by heimindanger »

rebuilder wrote: post #15

So where does the money come from? This might be a question about STEEM more than DTube, but I couldn't figure it out. The DTube FAQ answer for "Where does the money come from" just says "The STEEM blockchain keeps printing new STEEM everyday. These new printed STEEM are given out as rewards." I'm hoping there's more to it than that, but I couldn't find what the mechanism for bringing value into the STEEM ecosystem i…

Holding STEEM currency will give you more influence on the network (increase the $ ouput of your votes).

A fresh account will give like 0.002 per vote, while my account with 5000 Steem gives about 2$ per vote.

Also, people who vote get 'curation rewards' from the system. Depending on how early you voted and helped discovered a content, you get rewarded for it, even if it's only a small share, it adds up

Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS

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Post by KyleBerezin »

I've been wondering for a long time, how do you remove illegal content. I don't care so much about copyright and minor offenses like that, but more serious offenses like child pornography. If there is no way to remove it, people and governments will start to take action against the whole website, decentralized or not.

Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS

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Post by heimindanger »

JankySolutions wrote: post #155

Wow, nice domain. I wonder how much that cost

Actually we started out with dtube.video domain and the .TUBE registry owner noticed and liked our project so much that he offered the domain for a very fair price. :))

True story

Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS

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Post by aerodog »

heimindanger wrote: post #102
TekMol wrote: post #36

Ok, so I'm looking at a website that tells me it's decentralized. But from all I can tell this is just a good old website. Somebody has control over the domain name. Points it to servers of his choice. And the servers deliver content of his choice. What's decentralized about it?

A good old website? No. We don't need the domain, you can take the https://github.com/dtube/production repository, ipfs add -r it on ipfs, and use DTube this way -> https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmRWPnY8h7Eg4v74GtKT6UBy2kUAN139QwYPUrg... (few bugs but it works apart from /home not being rendered on first load, you need to click the logo) What is decentralised: - The website (its fully static and can be hosted on ipfs) - The v…

I am blown away by this. I can't figure out where you guys are worse off than youtube, other than that you have to play some content catchup. Otherwise, seriously, what am I missing.
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