This kind of news is the reason why people should seriously consider buying a hardware crypto wallet if they plan to put significant sums at risk. I've started trading in this space with a modest amount, but as I plan to increase some of my investments I am definitely considering purchasing a wallet. I would sleep better if I knew my coins were not held within the exchange.
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A usd-token requires trust that the token issuer isn't just printing magic internet money. You've just moved your point of failure from the exchange, to the token issuer. All evidence points to USDT being just that - magic internet money, with nothing backing it.
Dozens of exchanges risking their reputation on it suggest otherwise.
Tether is a huge red flag to me..Enron level.
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Interesting - I'm unfamiliar with XEM, I presume the non-transferable mosaic (that were used to mark the accounts to which the stolen funds were transferred) is signed in some manner such that a copy couldn't be spoofed onto an arbitrary account?
Mosaics are a core feature of the platform. Think of it like an ERC20 token, but the creator of the token can impose fees (among other features). The fees are set to another token that the hacker doesn't/can't own - as such the account is stuck owning the asset.
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
'Money ain't got no owners, only spenders' -Omar Little This quote applies to unregulated markets: drugs or cryptocurrencies.
I just finished watching all The Wire seasons for the first time and freaked a little when I saw your comment. I often see something on Hacker News that I just recently had contact with and is not that popular.
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It's still impossible to have a decentralized exchange convert between USD and a coin. XEM (the coin that was stolen) doesn't have plans to implement 0x, but there are other plans for decentralized exchange.
Why not? By using a usd-token like usdt it become possible. Bitshare usd also has been very stable lately and it is fully decentralized.
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#166This kind of news is the reason why people should seriously consider buying a hardware crypto wallet if they plan to put significant sums at risk. I've started trading in this space with a modest amount, but as I plan to increase some of my investments I am definitely considering purchasing a wallet. I would sleep better if I knew my coins were not held within the exchange.
You don't need a hardware wallet, you just need to CONTROL YOUR PRIVATE KEYS AND NOT KEEP YOUR MONEY IN AN EXCHANGE. This gets repeated over and over, but people just don't listen until it is too late. Keeping money on an exchange is the antithesis of why crypto-currencies were invented in the first place.
Most people getting into cryptocurrency at this point aren't going to be able to spin up a secure debian box, download and run zcashd, run it until it syncs with the network, construct a transparent address, round-trip a test portion of their exchange funds through the address, park their on-exchange zcash there, and put the wallet.dat file somewhere secure from hacking or destruction. But my understanding is that Ledger can handle transparent zcash transactions, which potentially massively simplifies matters.
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#167I don't understand why news like this doesn't have that huge of an impact of bitcoin's price.. Bitcoin seems to be hovering around 11k~ as I'm writing this. It's been at the same price it seems for the past couple of days...
'Money ain't got no owners, only spenders' -Omar Little This quote applies to unregulated markets: drugs or cryptocurrencies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtoM9x-Bfu8
Omar robs drug kingpin Marlo who is at a card night, sat round the table, raking in winnings. Marlo claims the money is his, in response Omar says “Man, money ain’t got no owners, only spenders.” He then goes on to take Marlo's ring rather than just run off with the $$$.
So, in the context of the show, Marlo thinks he has just raked in all of these chips and made himself rich, there is the stack of these bits of plastic chips in front of him.
Meanwhile, the $$$ gets handed to Omar straight from where it is kept in the back of the room, the 'bank' off table. All the money for all the chips that are on the table is kept in this one area that Omar is able to head off with, leaving Marlo with his useless chips on the table. At the instant that Omar takes the money all the chips on the table are rendered useless for all players and no longer of value. It is apparent for all that the chips will not be exchanged for USD at the 'bank'.
Marlo doesn't just lose the 'fiat' $$$ that he thought he was winning, he also loses the ring on his finger. Although the money may be just money and he may not have lost as much as the prize pot, the ring is an item that cannot be so easily replaced. It has value beyond nominal gold value, sentimental value.
Before Omar rocks up the card game is being played in an unregulated way with the players having to trust but verify each other. Nobody cheats at the game. The card deck has its own blockchain technology.
The Wire was a long time ago and now Omar has realised that it is more lucrative to move into crypto. So in the 2018 remake Omar does not need a gun to steal all the money from all of the gamblers using a set of chips. He uses chips he printed earlier and limits the available chips so new players wanting to win big in the unregulated card game have to pay more for their chips.
Not all players play every game, most just hold on to their chips hoping others wanting to play will want to buy their chips. So they tell others to play the game. The value of their chips goes up so notionally the chips are now worth millions even though there is only a huge but nonetheless smaller pile of money in the 'bank'.
Because any one player can cash out at any time they do not care if there is less than the sum total of all play money in the 'bank'. So long as there is a multiple of what their chips are worth they have no real concern, unless everyone else starts cashing out.
Because the bank is quite slow and everyone has to queue, some players start to sell their own tokens. These can be placed as side bets on the major games. These coins are copies of the original coins but are super lightweight and have an alleged advantage of being totally anonymous, nobody can track them.
Some of these players are making good business on this side betting and they tell their customers that their coins will one day be able to be useful for more things than side bets. One day they will be able to do every day things with the tokens like get a shopping trolley at a supermarket with one, thereby not needing a 'fiat currency coin'.
So Omar rocks up and rather than use a gun he simply takes his position on the coin to run off with all the money. The people with the chips thought they were the lucky ones owning all the money but no, Omar goes and spends it for them.
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Because it makes it seem like exchanges are not trustworthy places to keep your crypto, and for basic users a lot of people just keep their crypto there. Fear, no matter how how misplaced, can cause markets to sway heavily.
Exchanges are not a trustworthy place to keep your crypt. I think that is accepted. What does it have to do with the value of the thing?
If there was some secure way to do password recovery that was built into the currency that might be a game changer. That might be impossible by definition, not sure.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dozens of exchanges risking their reputation on it suggest otherwise.
Do you honestly believe Tether has 2.2 billion dollars in a bank account? Tether is a huge red flag to me..Enron level.
It's really not hard to believe when you consider how many millions of people are on these exchanges. Binance touts 3 million users, and has 425,819,642 tethers. 141$ average a user is completely believable.