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Facebook Overhauls News Feed to Focus on What Friends and Family Share

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Post by losteric »

thinkloop wrote: post #115
losteric wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Traditional media only broadcasts content to millions, and they are regulated. Why isn't Facebook regulated?

Facebook is regulated (everything is regulated to some degree either directly or indirectly). Is there a specific regulation you mean? Perhaps traditional media should be less regulated? I personally really like the way the internet is.

I'd like more regulations on securing / deleting consumer data, accountability for data leaks, public disclosure of political advertising, clear labeling of friend's content vs ads and organic trending content, and anti-monopoly regulations to promote innovative competition.

The public has benefitted from placing those regulations on traditional media, it should serve as an example for regulating massive tech corporations. If anything, I'm in favor of more advertising regulations on traditional media (eg banning deceptive advertising, especially in medicine).

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Post by Von_Jones »

Still a douchebag company.

In essence, they got its users (me included) to sign away our sovereign data before we knew its value. I feel the equivalent is colonialists in Africa getting African chiefs to sign away their land for a bottle of whiskey. I would go as far as to say Facebook is a neo-colonialist land-grabber - except its not your land you've given away, it's your most personal information. Zuckerberg = world's biggest douche. A modern day Cecil Rhodes.

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Post by lenzm »

drewmol wrote: post #142
untog wrote: post #35

I very much hope this isn't just words. The core problem, IMO, is that content that makes us angry, anxious or jealous is a much better driver of clicks than content that makes us happy. I'm sure Facebook knows this. If they really mean it, they'll accept that they will make less money as a result of this change. It would be the right decision in the long term, but the short term will hurt.

>It would be the right decision in the long term, but the short term will hurt. It seems there's quite a bit of incentive to target short term gains for many of the relatively new tech companies. When tons of early employees hold incredibly valuable stock options, which tend to be more valuable than their salary's, this creates an organization wide incentive to drive those stock prices as high as possible during thei…

It's hard for any large organization to be nimble and quickly change direction, eg. the government, military, unions, religions.

If anything, stock options incentivize longer term thinking. Instead of quarter to quarter goals, stock options reward goals years in the future.

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Post by kthejoker2 »

DashRattlesnake wrote: post #117
thinkloop wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is regulated (everything is regulated to some degree either directly or indirectly). Is there a specific regulation you mean? Perhaps traditional media should be less regulated? I personally really like the way the internet is.

> I personally really like the way the internet is. Giant monopolies that control most of it for most users?

Who forced you to use a single site on the web? Monopolies of oil, phone lines, food ... Those are troubling.

What is Facebook a monopoly of? Attention? Digital family scrapbooks?

If they're such a monopoly why is it ridiculously easy to quit it with absolutely no consequences?

Why are you giving these companies powers they don't actually possess? Their only value to anyone is their Network effects. There are plenty of alternatives to Facebook and Twitter and Google and (thanks, Internet!) they're really easy to find and use.

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Post by lemoncucumber »

cryptoz wrote: post #26
gumby wrote: post #18

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Unless you have a small number of FB contacts (AKA “friends”) chrono is probably rapidly overwhelmed. I wanted chrono too, but it’s just too much. OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it. That can be true in the HN firehouse too though sometimes you can dredge it out of your browser history. Good luck trying that w/FB My gf works on th…

> OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it. Try 2 seconds ago. Open facebook, browse, start to close facebook, see something interesting, but it's too late the tab is closing, oh well, re-open facebook, too bad it's gone forever you'll never see it again.

Worse yet, if you use the Facebook app to follow a link someone posted and leave it open for awhile, when you then hit the back button to close the browser and return to your feed, the post containing the link will no longer be on your screen, or even easy to find. Makes it near impossible to comment on it, re-share it, etc.

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Post by rspeer »

eckza wrote: post #78
gumby wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you have a small number of FB contacts (AKA “friends”) chrono is probably rapidly overwhelmed. I wanted chrono too, but it’s just too much. OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it. That can be true in the HN firehouse too though sometimes you can dredge it out of your browser history. Good luck trying that w/FB My gf works on th…

For what it's worth, HN's search feature is killer and has never let me down.

Is this sarcasm, or are you referring to Algolia?

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Post by gressquel »

untog wrote: post #35

I very much hope this isn't just words. The core problem, IMO, is that content that makes us angry, anxious or jealous is a much better driver of clicks than content that makes us happy. I'm sure Facebook knows this. If they really mean it, they'll accept that they will make less money as a result of this change. It would be the right decision in the long term, but the short term will hurt.

yes, but to counterbalance this they will making companies/pages pay to get articles into newsfeed or on frontpage one way or another.

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Post by a_imho »

dvcrn wrote: post #37

yes please! The reason I don't use facebook anymore is because it doesn't present me anything I care about. Just memes, news and updates in some sale groups I am part of. I'm not complaining that it doesn't hog me as much as it used to, but the reason why I still have a account is to keep in touch with friends and acquaintances and see what's going in in their life

it is pretty easy to curate your own feed though, just unfollow/unfriend the people posting noise. I see maybe 1-2 new posts a day on average.
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