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Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by DanBC »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #74
simonsarris wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My argument isn't scary chemical names. It's that you face a bad omega 3:6 ratio. I already said that in the first comment.

> My argument isn't scary chemical names. Isn't it? You're the one bandying about phrases like " ...strange synthetic meal... " and touting the ingredient lists of one meal over another. As for bad omega 3:6 ratio, that's easily solved by eating something else that contains omega-3. Nobody says that Soylent is the only thing a person is permitted to eat.

> Nobody says that Soylent is the only thing a person is permitted to eat.

It has been marketed as a sole source of nutrition, and every conversation about Soylent on HN has people claiming it can be used as a sole source of nutrition.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by d0lph »

mrgoldenbrown wrote: post #127
d0lph wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any examples of products that are meant to be a meal replacement, and that contain all necessary nutrients? > random guys buying bulk ingredients on Amazon and mixing them up in moldy warehouses Is this based on something, because I highly doubt they are sourcing ingredients from amazon, this is needlessly inflammatory. And moldy warehouses, do you really have so little to say about Soylent you have to ma…

Soylent has had multiple, well publicized problems with mold and at least one instance of journalists finding rats running around the factory floor. https://www.google.com/search?q=soylent+moldy https://www.google.com/search?q=soylent+rats

There was one journalist that found rats in the kitchen, during the beta phase of soylent. Presumably when they hit production they used standard manufacturing techniques.

The mold is unfortunate, but only with Soylent 2.0, the pre-made bottles. As soon as they found out they issued a recall, like any responsible company.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by d0lph »

freeflight wrote: post #151
d0lph wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any examples of products that are meant to be a meal replacement, and that contain all necessary nutrients? > random guys buying bulk ingredients on Amazon and mixing them up in moldy warehouses Is this based on something, because I highly doubt they are sourcing ingredients from amazon, this is needlessly inflammatory. And moldy warehouses, do you really have so little to say about Soylent you have to ma…

> Do you have any examples of products that are meant to be a meal replacement, and that contain all necessary nutrients? The tube feeds [0] are pretty much exactly that. Those Fresenius ones are not flavored but other manufacturers, like HiPP/Abbot, even have flavored tube feed, as some tube patients like having the flavor come up when they have to burp. A step closer are the "nutritional supplements", which is a we…

Where can I buy a tube feed exactly?

Do you have any examples of Trinknahrung?

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

Nition wrote: post #41
cisanti wrote: post #17

Are that kind of drinks popular in North America and if, then why..? I'm having problems understanding why would anyone want to consume something like that.

The idea is essentially maximizing nutrition while minimizing preparation. It's not really a way of buying food so much as a way of buying time.

In that case, why is it any better than just ordering some takeaway?

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by jm2721 »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #115
RunawayGalaxy wrote: post #35

From what I understand, Soylent severely underestimates the importance of fiber in the human diet.

Fermentable fibers aren't just important, they're one of the key determinants of how healthy your diet is. Mood, memory & cognitive function, immune function, inflammation and leanness are all strongly influenced by your microbiome. Not only does a high fiber diet promote an optimal microbiome, the byproducts of fiber fermentation are actually the mechanism for most of the benefits. Soylent also fails due to a lack o…

Do you have any sources for how important fiber is? I usually eat keto, and when I tried adding fiber to my diet I got stomach cramps, felt like I was hungry all the time (which never happens), and grew extremely irritable. Over the next few days I had two or three massive, green bowel movements, which was also unusual since I generally only go twice a week. Previous times I've tried taking some psyllium husk and even that seemed to lead to hunger pangs and bowel movements.

I'm always interested in improving my health, so I'll definitely try it again, perhaps more scientifically this time. That said, I don't want to struggle through the annoying symptoms if it turns out that fiber doesn't do anything.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by jm2721 »

riffraff wrote: post #123
rhinoceraptor wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's only true if you have the peculiar western idea that meat is just the lean muscle tissue of the animal. If you count bone marrow, brain, organ meats, blood, etc. an animal is pretty high fat.

the problem is that "animal" was not the most common food anyway, overshadowed by plants, not that it doesn't contain enough fat. EDIT: I'm also not sure about this western culture bias you're talking about, I am italian and we eat innards, blood and marrow. I am fairly sure every culture in europe does.

> overshadowed by plants

When? Only in the last 10,000 years of agriculture, I guarantee you hunter gatherers did not get the bulk of their calories from plants. Also, it's heavily dependent on what culture you're talking about. Some cultures relied heavily on animals, others on plants.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by ghaff »

jsjohnst wrote: post #143
riffraff wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the problem is that "animal" was not the most common food anyway, overshadowed by plants, not that it doesn't contain enough fat. EDIT: I'm also not sure about this western culture bias you're talking about, I am italian and we eat innards, blood and marrow. I am fairly sure every culture in europe does.

I think he meant American bias when he said “western culture”. “Meat”, where I was raised, definitely didn’t include those (very tasty!) parts of the animal.

Mostly true. Beef liver was pretty common diner-type food though.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by zzalpha »

earlyriser wrote: post #132

I'm Canadian and drink Soylent regularly, maybe like 2-4 times per month. Soylent is again doing a poor job on PR in that FAQ. The most important questions are which requirements are the failing and why. That's all, but again they're obscure and far from the public. Same was when lots of their consumers wanted a non-edulcorated version (it was very sweet some versions ago) and then there was no communication on their…

I'm Canadian and drink Soylent regularly, maybe like 2-4 times per month.

Random aside: Once every week or two is considered "regular" consumption to you?

Isn't this product supposed to be the end-all and be-all of meal replacements? What has curtailed your consumption?

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by DanBC »

sandworm101 wrote: post #117
ssijak wrote: post #105

I always hated Soylent. Their bold and false marketing (things like "We solved nutrition.", "Complete nutrition no matter which flavor you choose."). If it was me, I would ban them everywhere, not just Canada, because of that false advertising. It is one thing, making a drink and selling it, and another marketing it like that. It was very painful from the start listening how 2 guys with no background SOLVED NUTRITION…

They aren't out to fix all the health problems associated with what people do and don't eat, or about any lack of food. The "solve nutrition" stuff is more about solving the "what shall I eat today" question. It's about providing a product to lazy people. They throw some science in because they know that sells to their target market, which isn't everyone. Like most other fad foods the real product is the marketing hy…

> They aren't out to fix all the health problems associated with what people do and don't eat

That's not how the crowd funding went - it was a product suitable for everyone, that would put you in perfect health.

The Canadians are saying Soylent can't be sold as a sole source of nutrition - how is this useful to Soylent? Every soylent thread has people saying the differentiating factor for Soylent is that it can be used as a sole source of nutrition.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by dmix »

zzalpha wrote: post #168
earlyriser wrote: post #132

I'm Canadian and drink Soylent regularly, maybe like 2-4 times per month. Soylent is again doing a poor job on PR in that FAQ. The most important questions are which requirements are the failing and why. That's all, but again they're obscure and far from the public. Same was when lots of their consumers wanted a non-edulcorated version (it was very sweet some versions ago) and then there was no communication on their…

I'm Canadian and drink Soylent regularly, maybe like 2-4 times per month. Random aside: Once every week or two is considered "regular" consumption to you? Isn't this product supposed to be the end-all and be-all of meal replacements? What has curtailed your consumption?

> Isn't this product supposed to be the end-all and be-all of meal replacements?

I don't know why so many people think this is the case and then hate on the product.

Taking too much of any one thing is bad for you. People were doing only-soylent as an experiment. But for the most part 90% of the time I've read people only using it for a single meal each day, or on days they dont have time to cook, and eating regular food otherwise. Which sounds entirely reasonable to me, especially given how often people substituted those moments with junk food.

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