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Too much fructose can damage your liver, just like too much alcohol

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Re: Too much fructose can damage your liver, just like too much alcohol

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But some claim that during the conversion of corn glucose to HFCS, a lot of contaminants end up in it, and explain some of its ill-effects to that.

Oddly enough, they don't seem able to actually back up those claims.

Then keep on consuming HFCS. I quickly googled for the lazy you and it's not too hard to find stuff on the subject like [0]. I am personally staying away from all sugars except those naturally found in fruits and honey.

[0]: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01...

Re: Too much fructose can damage your liver, just like too much alcohol

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Same with skim milk, which has always been used to fatten pigs. But some prefer it today thinking less fat and cholesterol is healthier and would make them lose weight over whole milk. If only the most complex system in the universe (the human body) was that simple! People and, unfortunately, scientists completely ignored the complexity of hormones, gene expressions, and many other factors when suggesting "healthier"…

False. Fructose != skim milk. Less fat and less calories in skim milk can cause weight loss. The claim that skim milk was fed to pigs because it has some magical fattening properties is just another urban myth. Skim milk was fed to pigs because it was free/cheap and nutritional. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/food/2014/0... http://northernplanets.blogspot.com/2007/07/milk-folklore.ht...

When did I ever say that skim milk and fructose are the same thing?! Both whole and nonfat milk contain the same quantity of lactose and galactose. By the way, galactose is equally bad if not worse than fructose and lactose converts to galactose in your digestive tract, so, your misreading is partially correct. Unfortunately for me, galactose is present in yogurt as well.

Anyway, they fed pigs skim milk because no human wanted it, and when you take out the fat for cream and butter than junk was suitable only for the swine. Your articles are no scientific or historical proof. Without the fat in milk, the calcium in skim milk ends up in your arteries, not your bones. So, fattening or not, skim milk is not a healthier alternative from many aspects.

The funniest thing is that skim, and whole milk in America have the same price! So, the fat is removed to sell it separately and at a high price, and, yet, both types of milk are sold at the same price because there are stupid enough people to consider it "better."

I have organic raw grass-fed whole milk, and my kids have had it for over 5 years with no issues whatsoever. Kudos to Organic Pastures [0] to keep providing a high-quality product with consistency during this time!

[0]: https://www.organicpastures.com

Re: Too much fructose can damage your liver, just like too much alcohol

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Oddly enough, they don't seem able to actually back up those claims.

Then keep on consuming HFCS. I quickly googled for the lazy you and it's not too hard to find stuff on the subject like [0]. I am personally staying away from all sugars except those naturally found in fruits and honey. [0]: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01...

That's production faults, not inherent to HFCS.

I try to stay away from added sugars too, but there is no reason to demonize HFCS specifically.

Re: Too much fructose can damage your liver, just like too much alcohol

#164

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Then keep on consuming HFCS. I quickly googled for the lazy you and it's not too hard to find stuff on the subject like [0]. I am personally staying away from all sugars except those naturally found in fruits and honey. [0]: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01...

That's production faults, not inherent to HFCS. I try to stay away from added sugars too, but there is no reason to demonize HFCS specifically.

I didn't say contamination is specific to HFCS, but any large-scale low-cost process is prone to contamination. There was another point that the fructose part in HFCS is less stable than in table sugar, and affects the gut worse in some ways.

Re: Too much fructose can damage your liver, just like too much alcohol

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False. Fructose != skim milk. Less fat and less calories in skim milk can cause weight loss. The claim that skim milk was fed to pigs because it has some magical fattening properties is just another urban myth. Skim milk was fed to pigs because it was free/cheap and nutritional. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/food/2014/0... http://northernplanets.blogspot.com/2007/07/milk-folklore.ht...

When did I ever say that skim milk and fructose are the same thing?! Both whole and nonfat milk contain the same quantity of lactose and galactose. By the way, galactose is equally bad if not worse than fructose and lactose converts to galactose in your digestive tract, so, your misreading is partially correct. Unfortunately for me, galactose is present in yogurt as well. Anyway, they fed pigs skim milk because no hu…

Parent comment: > People have been force feeding animals to fatten them up

Your comment: > Same with skim milk, which has always been used to fatten pigs.

Re: Too much fructose can damage your liver, just like too much alcohol

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"because sugar is calorie-heavy". That's it? What about all the studies that shows high consumption of sugar leads to diabetes, heart disease, mental health etc.? Who knows what is true any more? May be big sugar companies are fighting back using fake studies and blogs to lessen the blame like they did with fat before. Edit: I forgot to mention 2 real examples: 1. My father is not fat. We don't eat any junk foods, ev…

And what about the studies that attribute those same maladies to fat, excessive protein intake from red meat, aluminum and countless other factors? I know people who are fit and well within normal weight, blood pressure, cholesterol and everything else, eat a very healthy diet and they still got diabetes. One of them lives almost exclusively on home-grown and home-cooked meals (they run a small farm), he's very into…

I'm not saying there are no other factors.

But, lots of studies have showed sugar is highly related to diabetes, heart disease, mental health etc.. And here you are saying avoid sugar only because of calorie. Like there can't be anything more to it. Where did you get that?

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