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Re: iPhone X

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Post by jccalhoun »

matthberg wrote: post #87

It's interesting how Apple is moving away from being the first phone with a feature (face id, Samsung did that before, or oled displays that are edge to edge). I think the shift from that innovation is a maturing step, but also a sign that the company is aging poorly. They can no longer claim to be leading with creation, just with quality. More and more the focus in smartphone development, not just Apple, is on being…

As others have said, the Samsung face unlock was not secure. Windows Hello has been around a while though and I think it works similarly to how the iphone one works.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by empath75 »

aecorredor wrote: post #68
chris_7 wrote: post #13

I unlock my phone in my pocket with Touch ID all the time - ready to go and on the home screen by the time I've flipped it around in my hand. Feels like a straight downgrade in usability. also, some engineer at apple had to continuously grow a beard to test this

Ok, the guy demoing the iPhone X just had to switch to the backup phone because the Face ID on the first one didn't work quite smoothly.

actually, the phone had been rebooted, so he needed to unlock with a pin to activate it.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by keketi »

fivesigma wrote: post #135
TekMol wrote: post #108

That AI chip that runs 600 billion instructions per second - is that just for FaceID or can it be programmed?

600 billion instructions per second to show a poop emoji.

From the company with the largest market capitalization in the world.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by AaronFriel »

I wonder if the tech team involved with Face ID factored the birthday paradox into their security factor. They touted a "1 in 1,000,000" chance that someone else's face unlocks one's iPhone X.

Well, with the birthday paradox, let's say there were, say, exactly 1179 people in the Steve Jobs Auditorium and they all had iPhone Xs. That's 694,431 unique pairs of people, and there would be roughly a 50% chance of two of the attendees faces unlocking the same phone.

That's not helpful for brute forcing a single phone, but it is mildly disconcerting that a security factor of only 1 in 1,000,000 is considered a "wow" factor.

Edit: Some people are asking, "But isn't that equivalent to a six digit pin?" Yes, of course. I am just opining on the marketing spiel for security not being nearly as impressive as it sounds. More boring features like the secure enclave play a much larger role in the security of the iPhone than the "1 in X" chance of a successful unlock.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by [deleted] »

xtracerx wrote: post #134
iClaudiusX wrote: post #59

Probably not a good sign that FaceID failed on stage for Craig on his first try (had to use a passcode to log in) during the demo.

I don't think it failed, it just said you had to use passcode on first login after restart, just like the touchID

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Re: iPhone X

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Post by kevingrahl »

function_seven wrote: post #132
kevingrahl wrote: post #56

It was said Face ID is one in a million so that means ~7500 people can unlock my phone..

My current PIN is 6 digits, so ~7500 can also unlock my phone on a random guess. Chances are the first five people to try will trigger the passcode though.

Haven't checked your math but that's random guesses on an insecure password and prevented by rate limiting, you can't just enter 7.5 billion passwords.

Face recognition (other than Face ID I mean) is fairly advanced. Let's say a government wanted to unlock my phone they could search for similiar faces and just pay the person. Sure a lot of trouble for unlocking a phone and it's theoretical but it's still a flawed system in my opinion.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by dade_ »

dopamean wrote: post #90
matthberg wrote: post #87

It's interesting how Apple is moving away from being the first phone with a feature (face id, Samsung did that before, or oled displays that are edge to edge). I think the shift from that innovation is a maturing step, but also a sign that the company is aging poorly. They can no longer claim to be leading with creation, just with quality. More and more the focus in smartphone development, not just Apple, is on being…

Hasn't this been true for a while?

Microsoft says Hello.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by rawrmaan »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #128

The Animoji thing is surprisingly neat. I was all prepped to make fun of it when they put the name on the screen, but that's just... really really neat.

Totally, I love it. Very expressive and fun.
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