Please stop calling this technology.
E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
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Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because if an "invention" is obvious it isn't patentable ( http://www.bitlaw.com/source/35usc/103.html ), and many many people see this as being far too obvious to be patentable.
Additionally, the meaning of "obvious" is non-obvious. It means obvious to somebody with knowledge of the relevant field.
Which, in my estimation, makes this "invention" even MORE obvious.
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you just quibbling about the semantics used in the article? Or are you saying nobody else can implement "1 click" even after the patent expires... because of copyright? Edit: Was an honest question, I've upvoted all the answers as I found them interesting, not understanding the barrage of downvotes shrug
They're saying that, unlike usual patents, the content of the one-click patent filing does not serve as a useful basis for anyone else's implementation of a one-click shopping cart. This is the whole point of patents: to publicize a trade-secret process in exchange for protection. If your patent can't be used by your competitors to (make it easier to) start doing the thing you're doing, then you didn't really file a…
> If your patent can't be used by your competitors to (make it easier to) start doing the thing you're doing, then you didn't really file a patent.
This is a good way of describing the point of patents, thanks :-)
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found > the patent will expire and the technology behind it will be free to be used by any e-commerce site particularly specious. There is no "technology" behind it. It was a concept or busines process that the vaguaries of patent law deemed worthy of rewarding. Not to mention that any technology ("source code") Amazon used to implement the patent will remain under copyright essentially indefinitely.
Business process can be considered a technology, i.e. technical procedure. Also, since they got the patent, wouldn't they have to pass tests for previous works, novelty, and obviousness? And, why shouldn't something be patentable, just because it's easy to replicate?
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Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#165The space (from my online shopping experience) seems to be divided between Amazon (with one click checkout, fast delivery etc) and everyone else (42 click checkout and one week delivery, if you're lucky). If the one-click patent was a major inhibitor of competition, I'd basically expect to see a lot of two-click check out options. Instead I find myself creating a million redundant user accounts, telling people that m…
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Most companies don't even have that checkbox anymore, the amount of accounts I've had to make that lead to more emails demanding my attention is shocking
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#166I ran an ecommerce company for about a year, and one click checkout was the least of our concerns when it came to Amazon. The speed of delivery, prime benefits, brand recognition, and willingness to lose money on many if not most items are absolutely brutal to compete against. I'm glad one click checkout will be more broadly available, but it's probably not going to make much of a difference...
I use amazon for many of the reasons you listed - but the first thing I do on a new device is turn off 1-click. I can't see this patent changing the game for anyone.
In e-commerce .5% change can mean millions of dollars if you have decent volume. There are very few things that aren't significant.
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#167I have always hated the thought that retailers stored my credit card information. Seems to be very common with US based shops. If this gets any traction I will need to fight even harder to opt out. I yearn for the day I can have one off transaction codes.
Why don't you like retailers storing your card? You get all the convenience with none of the risk (if there's any fraud the merchant eats all of it!).
This is an astoundingly naive view of what credit card fraud costs. The merchants are not doing this charitably. Your cost will be amortized somewhere.
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#168I have been buying from Amazon for 20 years and have not once used 1-Click.
I'm using it because I know I have time to cancel it if it's a mistake, and worst case scenario it's very easy to send them back stuff. Just print the return slip.
I used it once. About an hour later after nearly having a heart attack when I saw the email that I had purchased a $5,000 generator. I quickly canceled it, but it would have been such a pain to try to ship that back or even take delivery of it. I disabled it and still do.
Just because it is easy to return things doesn't make me feel good about doing it - it is such a waste. Maybe I should look at it as creating jobs.
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you just quibbling about the semantics used in the article? Or are you saying nobody else can implement "1 click" even after the patent expires... because of copyright? Edit: Was an honest question, I've upvoted all the answers as I found them interesting, not understanding the barrage of downvotes shrug
I don't think it's a quibble. I think it's a point about what even makes sense to be patentable. The expiration of the patent frees up exactly zero technology.
To clarify, it's not that the special technology behind it doesn't get freed, it's that there is no special technology behind it.
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#170I have always hated the thought that retailers stored my credit card information. Seems to be very common with US based shops. If this gets any traction I will need to fight even harder to opt out. I yearn for the day I can have one off transaction codes.
These days the retailers don't (or shouldn't) store it. They store a token that the payment processor (e.g. Stripe) uses as a key to the card data that they store. If you as a retailer have your checkout page set up properly, the actual card data never hits your server.
My company does $1m in sales annually. Stripe requires 7 days to close payments (versus 1d for other merchant accounts).
The extra $16k of float that Stripe requires is not worth it for me. This is why we have credit card numbers come to our server.