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How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by tw04 »

thriftwy wrote: post #152
tw04 wrote: post #150

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>Every application looks different (yes they used to blame Linux/X11 on that one). It has two control panels (or three maybe), two web browsers shipped with it. So you want your cake and you want to eat it too? It's pretty well known that as part of the new iterative release cycle they're slowly moving things into the new "control panel". That's not going to happen overnight, and unless you want to go back to only se…

> 's pretty well known that as part of the new iterative release cycle they're slowly moving things Linux DEs were blasted for things like that, but now they're suddenly OK for a multi-billion-dollar company's flagship product? > you're running off a spinning drive I also happen to walk on the ground and climb up the stairs, being aware of alternatives. That's what I've got in a shop and it has MS Windows logo glued…

>Linux DEs were blasted for things like that, but now they're suddenly OK for a multi-billion-dollar company's flagship product?

Yes actually. It's what users asked for, and I rather appreciate it. Linux DEs were BLASTED for breaking things. MS isn't breaking anything as they make the slow transition to the new panels. If you want to use the old control panel, everything is right there where it always was. If you want to use the new panel it will get you 90% of the way there on day-to-day tasks.

>I also happen to walk on the ground and climb up the stairs, being aware of alternatives. That's what I've got in a shop and it has MS Windows logo glued to it.

You're seriously on a technical site claiming you're pissed that you bought a dirt cheap laptop and got dirt cheap components? It's 2017, if you aren't willing to crack it and put an SSD into it, don't complain about performance. The laptop will be slow regardless of OS with a spinning drive.

Having a "windows logo" makes no guarantees of performance. Are you also pissed you can't run games in 4K on your $300 laptop?

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by peter_retief »

pjmlp wrote: post #62
peter_retief wrote: post #57

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Interesting how you capitalise the word "Research" after Microsoft, you must be a fan

No, I am someone that is able to distinguish the cold harsh reality of the corporate world, and religious hate against companies.

Harsh reality of the corporate world sounds a bit self aggrandised, stop taking yourself so seriously :)

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by lenkite »

ethbro wrote: post #158
rjbwork wrote: post #133

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I usually grep (powershell Get-ChildItem | Select-String) if I'm trying to do anything crazy in searching files.

Then there's also Powershell (as much as it improves on cmd) reminding me of adventure games where I have to remember which of the five synonymous verbs is recognized and does the thing I want.

You don't have to remember anything in powershell as you get parameter completion and command completion by default. Powershell useability beats the standard UNIX shells (bash/zsh) in command discovery and assistance. You even use PSReadLine if you want VI keybindings at the command line.

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by bjg »

hacksonx wrote: post #64

My home desktop (Intel Pentium G645) doesn't support virtualization and I guess this means I can't run this.

There is no virtualization used in SQL server on Linux... It's not a VM. It's a just like any other Linux process... It just happens to have something that looks a lot like the NT Kernel running inside that process.

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by peter_retief »

arethuza wrote: post #58
peter_retief wrote: post #57

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Interesting how you capitalise the word "Research" after Microsoft, you must be a fan

That's the name for that part of the organization: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/

That's just pimping man

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by peter_retief »

kyberias wrote: post #137
peter_retief wrote: post #51

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That doesn't have any bearing on what I said, not everything Microsoft did was bad or useless, their policy to crush innovation was the problem

Quit living in the past.

Future without Microsoft would be ideal

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by aykutcan »

dboreham wrote: post #139
aykutcan wrote: post #83

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Windows 10 is usable in every aspect. Boot speed is pretty good and doesnt freeze like that. Check your hardware if that is a fresh factory install. You are doing something wrong. They are not common problems. They are yours.

I feel I have to counter this. I have seen similar problems on multiple different machines. I know they are not "my" problems. I've been a Windows user and supporter for decades but my experience in the past 5 years is that it unfortunately doesn't "just work" these days. Also: your recommendation for resolving reliability issues is to reinstall the OS? Yes I know the historical reasons for saying this, but in 2017 i…

i am not recommending reinstall the OS. its so 90s. He/She said slow boot and freeze with "fresh factory install". Clearly having some issues.

I am also a technician and installed win10 more than i can count. Yes Old & Slow and New Budget-friendly machines are problematic with windows 10. Thats mainly because hardware. Because its new OS and getting better hardware is a must. You cant complain about a calculator can not run win10 properly. OF course 5200 rpm hdd and celeron cpu fails.

win10 is confusing? Yes. Sometimes goes hard on user? Yes. Annoying with their "windows store"? Oh very yes.

Slow and Freezing constantly? No. Proper UEFI setups works like a charm with proper machines.

Usable? yes it is.

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by kuschku »

alkonaut wrote: post #141
kuschku wrote: post #104

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Oh, so you're offering to buy me an SSD for Windows 10? That's so nice of you! /s If it doesn't work on a mechanical drive, it's fucking broken.

I didn't understand the question here (the /s was lost on me because I'm slow probably)

If you say that a product that is forced upon me by an automatic upgrade just needs better hardware than what I had before, then that hardware upgrade should also happen automatically, or at least for free.

Additionally, you don't get to compare two products if one of them has massively higher hardware requirements.

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by tiernano »

thriftwy wrote: post #97
tiernano wrote: post #75

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just curious: you say "new, factory fresh install"... is this factory fresh, as in "OEM" install, or your own install? if its OEM, could it be whatever crap was installed? third party antivirus, etc? i have Win10 installed on a Surface Book, and, other them me installing stuff i shouldent, the machine works well... i did have to uninstall corporate AV (the standard MS one works just as well... and its cheaper than th…

It's OEM. There was some crapware, I have removed most of it, but to no avail.

First thing I have done with most non Microsoft hardware is format and reinstall... even removing stuff still leave crap on your machine...
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