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Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by afterburner »

ajnin wrote: post #139
neverminder wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no point in debating the moral issues when our world is anything but. It's like condemning engineers for enabling governments and corporations to spy on us and constantly erode our privacy. In this particular situation the interaction was between me and the seller. Reviews are written, edited, removed by a person that owes nothing to other potential customers.

Seems contradictory to buy a low quality item based on unfair reviews, complain about that fact, then go on saying that reviewers owe nothing to anyone. They obviously owe a modicum of honesty and objectivity to other potential buyers. Why would you leave a review if not to inform other buyers ?

The other reason for a review is to complain to the seller. And it worked beautifully, he got his money back, and the seller lost money.

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Post by kbart »

4ad wrote: post #155
kbart wrote: post #130

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..or you can order online then go to shop and collect your order for free. It's usually the fastest method (except going to the shop and look for things yourself). I hate shopping so this is my preferred way of getting things locally.

Only if you don't value your time. To get to IKEA and back it takes me at least an hour, and I think on average I am on the quick side.

It depends on your location. It's on my way home from work, so it takes 10-15min max.

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Post by 4ad »

ikurei wrote: post #134
neverminder wrote: post #129

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> and the reviews aren't trustworthy the way they used to be You can say that again. I recently bought a kitchen knife with Amazon Prime that had ~100 reviews, an average of 5 stars. It cost £33, so wasn't particularly cheap. Just after I bought it the seller sent me one of those nagging emails asking for a review which I ignored. A week after they sent me another email, a copy of the first one. By the time I've alre…

So you just helped continue the fraud? Things aren't gonna improve by complaining on HN.

A dull knife is fraud? Seriously?

Knives are meant to me sharpened. The cheapest knife can be sharpened to razor blade sharpness. Sometimes new knives come sharpened somewhat, but in my experience all mass-produced knives need sharpening when new, even $250 knives.

I genuinely can't comprehend the complaint. What next, buy a new car and complain it didn't come with the tank full?

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Post by cronjobber »

kogepathic wrote: post #122
losteverything wrote: post #104

Article is worth reading. Imo the upping of price after demand increase is awful. Also, i do not think those addicted to Amazon care about these types of things. They keep ordering and ordering. Convenience is the name of their game

> Imo the upping of price after demand increase is awful. What? This is economics 101 of supply and demand. When demand exceeds supply, the price will increase. [0] Just look at the stupidity of video card prices recently if you want a concrete, non-sale example of why price increases when supply cannot meet demand. [0] http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3....

From the article: "It’s not like they’re bumping it by a buck and making a little bit more money. They are really tanking sales and it kind of has a ripple effect to us, being a small company trying to do demand planning"

The relevant Econ 101 buzzword isn't "supply and demand," it's "agency problem".

Amazon is "tanking sales" unilaterally, while the supplier manages stock on assumptions of higher sales at the regular, lower price point.

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Post by 4ad »

SwellJoe wrote: post #46

I've become more and more disillusioned by Amazon over the years. Prices are now almost never the best; I only buy from them when I need something quickly (and can't get it locally). NewEgg (nearly) always has better tech prices. Walmart often has better prices on everyday items and I can have it immediately. I just bought a pair of tweezers at my local grocery store for two bucks that was $6 on Amazon for the same m…

I agree Amazon has dropped the ball, but I still prefer to buy from Amazon compared to literally every other site because of the superior UI.

Compared to other major retailers (Walmart, NewEgg) the experience is just so much more smoother on Amazon.

Sometimes speciality items are cheaper on manufacturer's website. But that requires me to make an account and fill a bunch of forms! Some websites allow guest checkout, but there's often some fuckup happening with that and then I can't even complain properly and/or have a good reference number without an account. And even without an account I still have to fill all those terrible, terrible forms.

Plus it always takes longer to receive my merchandise from random websites than amazon. Even if I pay for the super-quick option, which, by the way, is usually more expensive than the equivalent option on Amazon, I still get my merchandise later because the small store will more likely ship tomorrow while Amazon will gladly do night operations.

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Post by jaclaz »

didibus wrote: post #119
SwellJoe wrote: post #46

I've become more and more disillusioned by Amazon over the years. Prices are now almost never the best; I only buy from them when I need something quickly (and can't get it locally). NewEgg (nearly) always has better tech prices. Walmart often has better prices on everyday items and I can have it immediately. I just bought a pair of tweezers at my local grocery store for two bucks that was $6 on Amazon for the same m…

To be fair, Amazon never claimed the lowest prices, that's Walmart's motto I believe. Amazon strikes for best customer experience, I think it tries to achieve the best balance of convenience, value and service.

Yep, but - still to be fair - please list the last three items that you could find (locally or online) at a lower price but that you decided to buy from Amazon instead because of the superior customer expereince.

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Post by thr0w__4w4y »

anonemouse145 wrote: post #34
KekDemaga wrote: post #25

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Wouldn't that be fraud?

Walmart often sells not-quite-same models of things. One, they often sell main items at below cost, because they make their money on accessories and groceries and whatnot before people check out. Computers and TVs are big ones. They will often take a big loss on a TV because they expect to sell DVDs and cables and such. Two, I didn't click this product but often they will have a submodel of a popular brand. Like an i…

Yes exactly. Costco often does the same thing... for example, they'll have a WD Passport 2TB USB 3.0 Passport drive, same specs as you'd find at Amazon, Best Buy, etc. except the packaging is different (one of those "stand up cardboard placards with blisterpack" things) and maybe it's also missing a case. /BUT/ it will also be a different model number. And also sometimes the warranty is different.

Sometimes you care about the differences, sometimes you don't. But consumers should realize the point you made (the not-quite-same aspect).

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Post by Super_Jambo »

provost wrote: post #146
neverminder wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no point in debating the moral issues when our world is anything but. It's like condemning engineers for enabling governments and corporations to spy on us and constantly erode our privacy. In this particular situation the interaction was between me and the seller. Reviews are written, edited, removed by a person that owes nothing to other potential customers.

> by a person that owes nothing to other potential customers Yet you feel jaded by the other reviewers. You don't owe me anything, but I would encourage you to go back and leave a negative review if the product isn't worth the price. I'm in the market for a cooking knife and would appreciate good reviews. Thanks.

Just buy a thin bladed one from ikea along with a ceramic roller sharpener.

Don't use it on frozen stuff.

If money is no object get a global along with the global specific ceramic roller sharpener.

Yes there are better things out there but for the cost Ikea is very good.

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Post by ithkuil »

afterburner wrote: post #161
ajnin wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems contradictory to buy a low quality item based on unfair reviews, complain about that fact, then go on saying that reviewers owe nothing to anyone. They obviously owe a modicum of honesty and objectivity to other potential buyers. Why would you leave a review if not to inform other buyers ?

The other reason for a review is to complain to the seller. And it worked beautifully, he got his money back, and the seller lost money.

I wonder if perhaps, just perhaps, it was indeed a faulty item
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