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Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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post #109

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Maybe they want the core experience to not require ancient command line tools? You don't see many Windows users complaining about the lack of grep.

I don't see many Windows users hanging out in the CLI for extended periods of time, either. Even though OP wasn't serious about fedora nixing grep, surely you see the lack of equivalence in that argument.

When Windows users want to hang out in the CLI they virtualise Linux or use cmder[0].

[0] http://cmder.net/

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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post #98

Pity that they don't open source it. I've gone through multiple image editors on Linux, and none of them have the simplicity of Paint. The layout and functionality is incredibly intuitive. You drop someone into Paint, and even if they've never seen it before, they can start doing stuff within a minute or so. You drop the same person into GIMP, and five minutes later they're still trying to figure out how the hell to…

> I've gone through multiple image editors on Linux, and none of them have the simplicity of Paint Have you tried mypaint?

Yeah, ugly as hell.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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post #139

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They did the same thing with the calculator, turning what is probably the simplest app on the entire computer into a Metro-ified flat-design-meme store-dependent mess for absolutely no benefit.

A Metro-ified flat-design-meme store-dependent mess which takes a noticeable delay to load . I've taken to firing up an instance of IDLE instead - which is actually a little nicer in the end

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Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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post #104

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The top 'arrow' looks like a sideways J, I assume it's an arrow based on context, but it's not that clear. Which is why it's nice to have a good tool for the job. PS: If you actually do the same thing in paint they have a lot of useful shapes and you get a preview of how they look. Which is nice if you don't want the chicken scratch look.

Well, for anything serious, paint is not good enough. You can't rotate your arrows, for example. If i need to do something well, then I use Paint.net (which is best parts of Paint and Photoshop combined in a free and super fast package). If I need something quick, then I can use the snipping tool. I literally have not turned on paint ever since I discovered windows snipping tool and paint.net (which is couple of year…

There's a huge middle ground between "serious image editing" and "quick one-off screenshot that looks professional."

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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post #67

All the comments that "you can just use X to do Y" is missing the point that Paint just works, for almost every value of Y. No argument, Paint.net is great, snipping tool solves the grab and crop, but for most anything else you need to do in a hurry, you need a quick paint program. It's like removing Notepad: we all know hundreds of editors we would replace it with, from Notepad++ to vim/emacs... but isn't nice that…

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Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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post #67

All the comments that "you can just use X to do Y" is missing the point that Paint just works, for almost every value of Y. No argument, Paint.net is great, snipping tool solves the grab and crop, but for most anything else you need to do in a hurry, you need a quick paint program. It's like removing Notepad: we all know hundreds of editors we would replace it with, from Notepad++ to vim/emacs... but isn't nice that…

Absolutely. Paint is by a long shot, Microsoft's best product. It's easy to build since it's codebase is pretty small and they haven't changed it much since it was introduced. So it's rock solid. IDK why they're fixing what ain't broke.

I still sometimes miss the old Paint with dither-pattern floodfills. The current Paint still supports lower bit depth bitmaps but not dithering.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Agreed! Paint was the only Microsoft product that I actually loved.

They did the same thing with the calculator, turning what is probably the simplest app on the entire computer into a Metro-ified flat-design-meme store-dependent mess for absolutely no benefit.

The new calculator is more useful to me than what came before. It does conversions too, which I use heavily. I like it.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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post #127

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Absolutely. Paint is by a long shot, Microsoft's best product. It's easy to build since it's codebase is pretty small and they haven't changed it much since it was introduced. So it's rock solid. IDK why they're fixing what ain't broke.

> IDK why they're fixing what ain't broke No telemetry.

It will come back as a windows store app.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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post #49

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It's not paint but Preview.app can crop, edit and annotate screenshots. A handy tip is to include control in the Mac screenshot keyboard command (e.g. ⌘⇧⌃3) to have the output piped to the clipboard instead of a file. Then in Preview.app, File > New opens the contents of the clipboard in a new window. While I'm at it, ⌘⇧4 (and ⌘⇧⌃4) lets you interactively select an arbitrary region. Also ⌘⇧4–Space (and ⌘⇧⌃4–Space) le…

Is there a Preview.app equivalent for Windows these days? It was one of my favorite new tools when I switched to Mac back in the day, because for windows I had to download special 'see all types of files + basic editing' programs.

For simply displaying PDF (and a few other formats), I like SumatraPDF. It is pretty lightweight (compared to the crawling horror that is Adobe Reader), and when you re-open a PDF, opens it at the position you were last time(!!!). The latter feature makes it perfect for viewing reference manuals etc.

EDIT: https://www.sumatrapdfreader.org/free-pdf-reader.html

EDIT²: IrfanView can display many graphic formats and quite a few that are not strictly speaking graphics. Plus, it has some basic image editing capabilities (resize, rotate, ...).

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