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Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Post by ceejayoz »

mhh__ wrote: post #158
4msonny wrote: post #139

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last i checked, republicans (and pro-trump candidates) have won every special election since trump came to power. so much for "shite" approval ratings.

No, they really are shite: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/... The only special election they should be disappointed about is georgia 6th. Many of the rest have been fairly encouraging, given that they have been competitive in red districts.

GA-06 hasn't had a Democratic rep in almost forty years.

I'd be more disappointed about SC-05, where it was a close finish with little resources dedicated. If some of the GA-06 millions had been spent there, it might've been a win.

I wouldn't be at all disappointed with the fact that both districts went Trump by 20 points, and were quite close less than a year later.

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Post by noway421 »

hyperdunc wrote: post #150
atomi wrote: post #97

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China is of comparable size to the US and has a population of nearly 1.4 billion people. We need the best here if we plan on staying a global superpower. It's incredible what is happening. It's like watching a slow moving train wreck and there is nothing we can do to stop it. :/

When so many people live in one country, the value of the average individual to the country as a whole is usually negligible. Do you think very high population density is more or less healthy for the individual? What about the effect on the environment? What happens once the US has 1.4 billion people and global birth rates have stabilized so there is no one else to bring in? Maintaining economic growth may be importa…

> value of the average individual to the country as a whole is usually negligible

Usually negligible because we have data only for developing countries. There's still no case of a developed nation with 1b+ population.

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Post by convolvatron »

davidw wrote: post #103
xxSparkleSxx wrote: post #31

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Damn. We might actually have to start investing equally in US children of all socioeconomic classes to ensure we have enough entrepreneurs and bright minds to compete in the global economy. EDIT: WOW, didn't think such an obvious comment would be so controversial (points are swinging up and down cyclically). Do ya'll think we are extremely efficient at turning potential into value from all of our current citizens? Do…

No reason you can't both invest in kids, and welcome people.

you can, and you should.

but it seems like the us has it made right now, a substantial amount of talent from overseas and abysmal investment in the native populace.

if you want to keep underinvesting in education, and keep a strong presence in new technologies/science/commerce...why would you turn off the magic spigot?

even if you started trying to right the ship of education, there's no way you could compensate for the talent thats coming in across the border, particularly in the short term.

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Post by anigbrowl »

sergiotapia wrote: post #101
vinhboy wrote: post #81

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Mass + New York + Canada + Seattle + Oregon + Cali will form the nation of America 2.0. Open borders to all US citizens. The rest of the US can mine coal, frack, or whatever they want to do. They think that's where the jobs are. Doesn't matter to us. We'll just speed up the electric, self-driving, car revolution with China and continue working on climate change rules and a global economy with Europe.

Who do you think actually puts the food you eat on the table? Will you eat your self-driving cars?

California really is an agricultural powerhouse, and not only in the central valley. Not to be argumentative, but many people's grasp of agricultural economics is a bit suspect. One could equally ask people in the midwest how they expect to import fertilizer and export crops without access to major ports.

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Post by gigatexal »

xxSparkleSxx wrote: post #31
justboxing wrote: post #21

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> They cannot apply for a green card during this period This will be a deal-breaker for over 95% of the applicants. Even though the H1B Visa is a non-immigrant visa, there was no such clause attached to it like this one. It's what enables 1000s of immigrants (like me) every year to first arrive on a non-immigrant visa and then get the employer to petition their green cards for permanent stay or eventually citizenship…

Damn. We might actually have to start investing equally in US children of all socioeconomic classes to ensure we have enough entrepreneurs and bright minds to compete in the global economy. EDIT: WOW, didn't think such an obvious comment would be so controversial (points are swinging up and down cyclically). Do ya'll think we are extremely efficient at turning potential into value from all of our current citizens? Do…

Yep. We would have had many fewer startups that became unicorns without immigrants. And without America being a place that is open and hospitable to entrepreneurs we will lose our edge.

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Post by teacup50 »

drspacemonkey wrote: post #76
startupdiscuss wrote: post #63

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I wonder if there is an arbitrage opportunity: invest in real estate and office space north of Seattle and south of Vancouver, just over the border. Those who can go back and forth and take meetings on both sides. People are within commuting distance of these large metro areas.

Real estate on the Washington side of the border is insanely cheaper. As soon as you cross the border, prices skyrocket and just keep going up until you hit downtown Vancouver. Seriously, our affordability problem is pretty much at crisis levels. People who argue that we should increase density aren't wrong, but we're already building towers as fast as we can. And the majority of those suffer from substandard, shoddy…

Indeed; look how well that's worked for Manhattan. /s

Realistically, density doesn't seem to ever drive down housing prices in the long term. All it does is increase the value of land tremendously, and thus push local home ownership out of reach of everyone but the ultra-wealthy.

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Post by mhh__ »

ceejayoz wrote: post #161
mhh__ wrote: post #158

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No, they really are shite: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/... The only special election they should be disappointed about is georgia 6th. Many of the rest have been fairly encouraging, given that they have been competitive in red districts.

GA-06 hasn't had a Democratic rep in almost forty years. I'd be more disappointed about SC-05, where it was a close finish with little resources dedicated. If some of the GA-06 millions had been spent there, it might've been a win. I wouldn't be at all disappointed with the fact that both districts went Trump by 20 points, and were quite close less than a year later.

When I say disappointed, I mean that they played up it's importance to a point where any result less than winning is a little embarrassing.

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Post by mhh__ »

4msonny wrote: post #139
mhh__ wrote: post #129

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Maybe he's not a man child, but what's his MO? His approval ratings are shite, so somethings not working

last i checked, republicans (and pro-trump candidates) have won every special election since trump came to power. so much for "shite" approval ratings.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/shite (It's British slang)

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Post by CountSessine »

Retric wrote: post #145
CountSessine wrote: post #138

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Ok, fair enough. But only 11%? Retric's numbers suggest only 11% of education funding is for teacher salaries. Does that not sound as crazy and outrageous to you as it does to me? Especially when the system seems to be so ... dysfunctional. I don't know a single teacher who hasn't had to personally shell out money for school supplies for their students because their school ran out of paper or something else essential…

3.5 / 15.5 = 22.6%.

Haha - oh goodness. I thought you meant indirect support was in addition to core. My bad. Not so outrageous.

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Post by convolvatron »

spitfire wrote: post #91
johncolanduoni wrote: post #50

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Last time I checked, Canada is still much stricter when it comes to work visas than the US, though I suppose much less of their capacity is getting eaten up by Infosys-like operations.

I know MIT grad lisp hacker types who couldn't pass the entrance points requirements. The trick is you have to learn French. No matter what - Learn French.

don't they still use the point system? that always seemed so refreshing compared the the huge mass of subjective rules that is the US immigration system.

french gets you lots of points, but as i recall even modest savings and a college degree got you most of the way there.

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