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Why Germany Still Has So Many Middle-Class Manufacturing Jobs

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Re: Why Germany Still Has So Many Middle-Class Manufacturing Jobs

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We certainly try to. But you'd probably get farther with us if you worked on your own stuff first.

Two posts in violation of a policy regularly broken makes it so if I complain about this bad behavior someone else is using against me, such complaints are not relevant, but I may be banned from your website. Am I understanding this correctly?

That is like complaining when you get a speeding ticket because you saw other people speeding and didn't see them get a ticket.

Re: Why Germany Still Has So Many Middle-Class Manufacturing Jobs

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I've heard the argument that, with high inheritance taxes, the heir of a family-owned company has to sell parts or all of the business in order to pay the tax. I don't know enough about the issue to say whether there is some truth to it.

If they sell it other investors are buying it so I don't get this argument.

I think the idea is that capital gets broken up into smaller chunks. When we're talking about creating middle-class manufacturing jobs, you obviously need to build, say, a factory to create those jobs. That factory requires a very large investment of capital, which becomes less likely when you start breaking up large estates.

I've no idea if it actually plays out this way in the real world, but that seems to be implication here.

Re: Why Germany Still Has So Many Middle-Class Manufacturing Jobs

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Two posts in violation of a policy regularly broken makes it so if I complain about this bad behavior someone else is using against me, such complaints are not relevant, but I may be banned from your website. Am I understanding this correctly?

That is like complaining when you get a speeding ticket because you saw other people speeding and didn't see them get a ticket.

These types of selective moderation make HN seem like the typical hive-mind that shouts down and uses abusive moderative tactics to prevent any diversity of opinion from sticking around.

Enjoy your kingdom.

Re: Why Germany Still Has So Many Middle-Class Manufacturing Jobs

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What makes it really hard to change tracks? I imagine if there were enough political will, that's a solvable problem.

It's not true. At least for Germany. Take a friend of mine for example: He went to Hauptschule (Germany has a 3-tier school system where children are split up after primary school, Hauptschule is for the least skilled children). He left Hauptschule a year early with very bad grades to start an apprenticeship with a carpenter. After three years of school and practival training he graduated to journeyman with honors (i…

But thats one track. Say you went carpenter route when you were 15 and now you want to study medicine or electronics or CS. You are going to lack basic background: even with master school it is really going to be tough to learn all the chemistry, mathematics, biology or physics that is required for those majors.

Re: Why Germany Still Has So Many Middle-Class Manufacturing Jobs

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Okay, first things- first - no lessons where learned, nobody out of the good of their hearts did anything for anybody. The original plan after world war 2 was to turn Nazi Germany into a agrarian border stripe between the two emerging power blocks. This plan was put into action, and some starvation resulted from the dismantling and moving of the factories. The reason this changed is because the cold war tensions, mad…

The plan of making a agrarian country out of Germany never went into action!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_plans_for_German_indust...

"The reduction in steel production that resulted from the first and the second level of industry plans meant that a steel production bottleneck ensued which forced other parts of the German industry to fall below their own permitted production levels. The economy of the Bizone finally hit rock bottom early in 1948 as a consequence of this.[21]"

It might have looked like a swift turnaround on the politics, but if you influence economics, the system behaves very physical, meaning, bottlenecks propagate, and effects ripple.

For most Germans i guess, the contrast of the war economy (which always felt good, due to wealth of whole Europe being fed into Germany) - and the aftermath, with refugees and year long food shortages was quite stark.

I guess all other nations have a prolonged history of suffering with the start of WW2 and slow improvement after the end.

Spilled milk under blown up bridges over long dammed rivers.

Whats way more interesting is the question of prevention. I actually propose the idea of Extremism-Vacacination. Controlled Synthetic extremism is introduced, in a controlled environment and the lectures are really learned.

Its quite similar to the approach i always suggest to transmitting live-experience from generation to generation. Usually advice is not really taken or valued, until the same mistake has been repeated.

Take scam-prone investments, for which every generation falls again and again. Now imagine a service a father/mother (or grandmother/father) could hire, that would scam the kid, and retransfer the funds upon lesson learned. Such a lecture, though also painful, would be less prone to do all the damages the real scam would do.

Problem is, behavioral vaccination is not legal.

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