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Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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It's too late to edit my original comment, but I've set up a temporary website, where I explain this app in more detail, and show some (temporary and very messy) screenshots and designs: http://tuskarr.tilda.ws/

Put a signup box for an email list on there, so that we can be reminded once it's closer to release

Doing this right now, should be up soon. UPDATE: The signup box is up and running.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatica…

One thing that is great about wunderlist is the truly instant sync. Have you been able to replicate that? I vaguely remember reading an interview somewhere about how they accomplished it.

Yes. We're using Realm for realtime sync.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Oh FFS. I just started using Wunderlist this week. All I want is a todo list where I can assign tags. So maybe I would do something like: * buy softener salt #shopping #home * fix garage door weatherstripping #home I can have saved searches for #shopping and #home. That way I don't need folders, I don't need projects. Tags can do it all.

Use http://todotxt.com -- It's just a plaintext file format. There are a bunch of optional GUI wrappers that are aware of conventions and/or help with grep-ing.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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> I've spent the last two years developing a todo app Without seeing what you have, a general remark would be that everyone and his cousin has clocked at least some time developing at least one ToDo app. It's a right-of-passage thing for a lot of developers, just like a Weather app is the same for UX designer wannabies. BTW, what set Wunderlist apart is not the features first and foremost, but their bold in-your-face…

(OP here) I've set up a quick website with more detailed descriptions and some screenshots: http://tuskarr.tilda.ws/ I'm absolutely aware of the rite-of-passage thing, but I'm doing this because I NEED a proper, working todo app. My life will crumble without it. And I'm prepared spend my time and money on it. In any case, there's no going back to Wunderlist now. As for marketing, I'm not worried. All I want is a work…

I wish you had put an email sign up option in your site. You're missing out on potential alpha users.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatica…

And then one day a tech giant will contact you for acquisition and ....... :|

Yes, I'm aware of this problem. First, we're unlikely yo be acqui-hired, because we're based in Russia. Second, I simply don't believe that this app will reach the levels of success similar to Wunderlist or Todoist :)))

But I definitely think that there should be a legal way of protecting existing users of an app from "Our Incredible Journey". Maybe some clause that permits the authors to open-source the app.

Are there any examples of this in the industry?

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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There's plenty of full-featured Todo list apps, but what's really missing is a quick & easy todo app that's got just the right amount of features.

Using Reminders and Notes for this feels clunky and awkward, and using a more full-featured todo app makes it hard to just get right to making a quick & dirty list.

Plus usually todo apps have weird design choices. Like, having a checkbox ticked for completed items brings more attention to them than to the remaining items, even though it's the remaining items that are most important to the user. Strange and unhelpful UI/UX choice, and it's so standard that even MS's new To-Do app does this!

So we decided to make an app that fills that niche, Accomplish[1]. We've barely started marketing it yet, but I have high hopes for this app because it feels like a very much untapped and overlooked market.

[1] http://penandpapersoftware.com/accomplish/

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've spent the last two years developing a todo app Without seeing what you have, a general remark would be that everyone and his cousin has clocked at least some time developing at least one ToDo app. It's a right-of-passage thing for a lot of developers, just like a Weather app is the same for UX designer wannabies. BTW, what set Wunderlist apart is not the features first and foremost, but their bold in-your-face…

(OP here) I've set up a quick website with more detailed descriptions and some screenshots: http://tuskarr.tilda.ws/ I'm absolutely aware of the rite-of-passage thing, but I'm doing this because I NEED a proper, working todo app. My life will crumble without it. And I'm prepared spend my time and money on it. In any case, there's no going back to Wunderlist now. As for marketing, I'm not worried. All I want is a work…

Break a leg.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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post #54

Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatica…

> I went full waterfall on it, the spec is 266 pages long and took half a year just to write. Why would you write a ~9k “loc” long spec over 6 month instead of coding it directly ? The only reason I can think of, is if you want to out-source the development. Is there any good reason to work this way on a one-man project ?

(OP here) This is not a one-man project. I'm the founder, and there's a UI designer and two coders - which makes it 4 people total. And we'll add another dedicated coder for iOS development, when we find a good one.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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> I went full waterfall on it, the spec is 266 pages long and took half a year just to write. Why would you write a ~9k “loc” long spec over 6 month instead of coding it directly ? The only reason I can think of, is if you want to out-source the development. Is there any good reason to work this way on a one-man project ?

> Is there any good reason to work this way on a one-man project ? (Not the OP.) At least for me, emphatically yes. From your question, it sounds like you're only considering the communicative value of a spec. That's of course important, but I consider it secondary. Writing a good spec forces you to think through what you're developing in an orthogonal way. You're thinking through flow, cohesiveness, design, some imp…

Writing a good spec forces you to think through what you're developing in an orthogonal way.

(OP here). This. A thousand times this.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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It's not really killed. The original Sunrise, Accompli and Wunderlist teams still work at MSFT and they're working on their new apps respectively (Javier runs all of Outlook now). And Chad Fowler (former CTO of Wunderlist), and company are behind the pivot to To-Do. It's the exact same application. I've been beta testing it and it just has few additional features that will show up over time. It's really just a rebran…

As someone who works closely with these teams within Microsoft, I can say that these team members are having a huge, positive impact on the Office division.
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