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Low-Level Programming University – A roadmap to becoming a low-level programmer

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Re: Low-Level Programming University – A roadmap to becoming a low-level programmer

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Post by sdflkd »

okatsu wrote: post #23
CliffyA wrote: post #6

As someone who can code in C/C++ and was recently looking for work, I don't think someone should learn low level programming for a career. What I would consider simple PHP jobs were easily paying more than C++ jobs. If you look at everyone reinventing the wheel in electron and not caring about performance I don't think the situation is going to get better anytime soon.

Please don't spread generalizations like these. I'm sorry about the job situation in your area but I live in a Canadian metropolis where 1) there's no shortage of low-level work and 2) they will pay much more than your average PHP consulting shop. In fact, I maxed out very early what someone can hope to earn at my level of experience. My point is that your job market is not representative of the whole world and you'r…

Yet if you did web development you'd (likely) be making 2X+ in America -- provided you were willing to move. Canada doesn't pay.

Re: Low-Level Programming University – A roadmap to becoming a low-level programmer

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Post by okatsu »

sdflkd wrote: post #161
okatsu wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't spread generalizations like these. I'm sorry about the job situation in your area but I live in a Canadian metropolis where 1) there's no shortage of low-level work and 2) they will pay much more than your average PHP consulting shop. In fact, I maxed out very early what someone can hope to earn at my level of experience. My point is that your job market is not representative of the whole world and you'r…

Yet if you did web development you'd (likely) be making 2X+ in America -- provided you were willing to move. Canada doesn't pay.

According to vocal Trump supporters, America doesn't need or want anything to do with my ethnicity anyways ;)

Re: Low-Level Programming University – A roadmap to becoming a low-level programmer

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Post by HeavenBanned »

fritzo wrote: post #32
chimtim wrote: post #7

Low level programmer here. This is great but the job market for low level programmers is very small. Recently, while interviewing, I described a thread safe, concurrent queue implementation to a hiring manager and he asked me -- "so how does this relate to big data and ML"?

What was your answer to the hiring manager? How about: "[buzzword] systems need lots of training data. To process that data quickly, systems must parallelize and distribute computation. Concurrent queues are a basic building block in parallel and distributed systems. They are used both internally in [buzzword] systems and directly by engineers building ingest pipelines and serving systems. Engineers need to know the…

I've heard people say: "don't say that managers don't know how to code; they'll be offended."

But it seems quite obvious that you disagree.

Re: Low-Level Programming University – A roadmap to becoming a low-level programmer

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Post by paulddraper »

blub wrote: post #149
cookiecaper wrote: post #57

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Behind the scenes activity is rarely so overt that one can point to "concrete" examples, and there's a lot of plausible deniability. Surely many people are just trying to cash in on the fad (cynics as above), and they hire developers or engineers (more likely naive than cynical), and both parties end up throwing fuel on the fire, as they're both now invested in it both monetarily and emotionally. These people are, pa…

Well put. Let's take a look at Google: they have the browser (Chrome), they have the OS (Android), they have their cloud, they have a popular programming language (Go), they have the internet gateways (Google search + other services), they have the data (Google analytics, data mining in all of their other services), they have the hardware (Android phones, Chromebooks), they will have the car (Android auto + self-driv…

Or you can browse a site hosted on Heroku using a Firefox browser on a Linux distro.

The interopretability is huge.

Re: Low-Level Programming University – A roadmap to becoming a low-level programmer

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Post by paulddraper »

souprock wrote: post #143
linkregister wrote: post #139

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I think that's kind of needlessly confrontational and doesn't make your company look welcoming to someone who might be looking to leave SF/NYC. That said, it's obvious to me who you work for but anyone who'd be offended won't know. I'd love to move to Melbourne, FL to do vuln research but I'd have to convince my family to make the move first.

You're probably right. We are pretty welcoming, but on Hacker News I definitely feel like every single state we're in just gets a giant REJECT stamp from everybody. The one exception is maybe our Austin office, because Austin seems to get an honorary non-Texas label. Working for government customers also seems to earn us a giant REJECT stamp around here. Aside from this particular article, "low-level" feels like anot…

Ah, I grew up in Melbourne, FL (Palm Bay, actually).

It was pretty great. Just know that it will be horrendously muggy during the summers. I miss it though.

Re: Low-Level Programming University – A roadmap to becoming a low-level programmer

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Post by phlipski »

neal_jones wrote: post #122
itsokimbatman wrote: post #75

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Actually now that I think about it, being too stupid to know when I'm in over my head and being willing to dive into an impossible task are probably the most valuable skills I have.

dumb enough to jump, smart enough to not die... the secret to success.

Sounds like the tag-line to one of those fake movie trailers on SNL. I like it!

Re: Low-Level Programming University – A roadmap to becoming a low-level programmer

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Post by sdflkd »

okatsu wrote: post #163
sdflkd wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet if you did web development you'd (likely) be making 2X+ in America -- provided you were willing to move. Canada doesn't pay.

According to vocal Trump supporters, America doesn't need or want anything to do with my ethnicity anyways ;)

Same with me, but Trump supporters are in low volume in areas where you want to live anyway. :)
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