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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by brandur »

guinness74 wrote: post #30

If Apple seems intent on making things right with its high-end desktop consumers, I wonder what that means for those of us pining for the return of the esc key on the MacBook Pro.

Fans of the Mac Pro have been waiting four years for this announcement, and are likely to be waiting another one or two for any real movement on the problem.

The Touch Bar seems like a pretty apparent failure in that even most of the "until death" apologists can't or won't defend it, but Apple's not going to give up this quickly. I think you'll get your wish, but not soon.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by chefandy »

jlgaddis wrote: post #5

For me -- and, I suspect, many others -- this is too little too late. Just a few months ago, I spent somewhere around $4500 (all-in) putting together a new workstation. It runs Linux instead of OS X and this has led to me using my (4-year-old) ThinkPad more than my (18-month-old) MacBook Pro (when I'm "on the go"). I actually plan on selling the MBP; I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm sure this is great news…

Especially since the whole virtual escape key thing– being a default layout vim user for 20+ years– I'd love to follow suit, but I need Adobe Creative Suite. The tools available on Linux aren't even ballpark. Getting OS X on a VM has always been fussy and frustrating, and if I wanted to work with Windows I'd just use a Windows laptop. On top of that, the apple magic trackpad is just great. Fussing with extracted bootcamp drivers to get it to work on a virtualized windows so I can run some essential software? No thanks. I need quick access to a comfortable, familiar replacement environment if something goes wrong with my regular computer. I can't afford to futz around with that stuff.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by chefandy »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #155
teekert wrote: post #76

I though it was gonna take Adobe saying: "We are working on CS for the latest Ubuntu LTS" before this was going to happen.

I'd love to see a market analysis regarding how many people stick with OS X only because they (a) need Adobe CS and (b) can't/won't use Windows.

I do.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by saturdaysaint »

Given Apple's uncertain "Pro" roadmap, I've been on a beefy Windows workstation for a few years for some digital hobbies, but it occurs to me that I'll happily take a look at jumping back. The transition to Windows got me in the habit of relying most heavily on crossplatform software, so it would be a smooth transition back.

Unfortunately, I'm anticipating something with an outrageous design premium and so hyperspecced at every turn that it won't make much sense for me. It's a shame - shouldn't the company able to make a $300 iPad be able to make a dream $2500 workhorse for the amateur musician/videographer? I've been reading these kind of wishful rants since the 90's, so I know not to expect much.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by michaelbuckbee »

dexterdog wrote: post #109
TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple said entire point of the redesign is to make the machine modular, so that it can be upgraded down the line, specifically addressing this concern. I guess it's up to each person to determine for themselves whether to believe it.

Modular so you can upgrade it only with Apple parts?

Well, if it was like the old pros, modular like: RAM, HD and Graphics cards could be upgraded.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by michaelbuckbee »

whatusername wrote: post #160
mcculley wrote: post #121

Every time the topic comes up of Apple ceding the high performance market, I wonder: What are developers at Apple using? Some in-house hackintosh?

Maybe I'm not doing enough development.... As a development machine - what is a top spec iMac/MBP missing that you would need a hackintosh?

The biggest thing is greater than 16GB of RAM.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by dade_ »

Brand loyalty is silly. It does mean I need to avoid platform lock-in, but it is completely worth it. I buy the best machine available for me at the time. When it was time to replace my MacBook Pro 2011, it wasn't a machine from Apple. I bought a Surface Pro 3 and thought that I'd switch back to Mac when Apple sorted out whatever their problem is.

Vapour Race 2017: Next Gen MacBook Pro or Surface Pro 5.

It would be nice to have a real GPU again....

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by DoofusOfDeath »

ianwalter wrote: post #112

I wish there was more info on the Pro Display. I thought Apple was "out of the display game". I wonder if the UltraFine issues played a part in this.

Serious question: What room is there for improvement and innovation in displays for MacPro's target users, aside from price-reduction?

I can see how photographers want faithful color reproduction with a wide gamut, good image consistency across the whole display, good resolution, and a decent size (maybe 32" tops?)

But AFAIK, monitors with those qualities are already available. The only thing I can think of that would make them better suited for professional work is to bring their prices down. (Because even pros have a budget.)

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