Not the solution perhaps but the next natural move of a cat and mouse game that predates the current policy change. It boils down to: Keep the internet lawless because there's no global entity that has my best interests at heart.
VPNs are not the solution to a policy problem
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Re: VPNs are not the solution to a policy problem
#162There are a few schools of thought on where responsibility should lie in protecting user privacy. The first that it is a role of government and policy - in the same way the government sets standards for automobile and road safety they can set and enforce policies for user privacy. The second school of thought is individual responsibility. Users should take steps to protect their own privacy on a case-by-case basis, i…
> The second school of thought is individual responsibility. Users should take steps to protect their own privacy on a case-by-case basis, in the same way they look after their own home security or personal safety. I think this is a bullshit argument. Nobody looks after their home security or personal security the way we expect users to be careful of their privacy, nor do we accept the amount of intrusions into our h…
Agreed. Parent's analogy only works in a world where breaking and entering was legal, and it was everyone's personal responsibility to defend their home.
Re: VPNs are not the solution to a policy problem
#163Does anyone sell a router for the home that has a VPN built in? So that I dont have to have every computer in my home hook into the VPN when I start it up. Just one account for my whole house? I imagine you could setup a linux box to do that for you, but I am lazy...
Get a asus rt-n16, and throw advanced tomato on it. Then plug in vpn settings into the vpn client, and your all set.
Re: VPNs are not the solution to a policy problem
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe nitpicking, but: > a fight for a fundamental right to privacy Many don't consider this to be a fundamental right. > A tech that takes 100 years to develop can be made illegal in a day. As the recorded history goes, I think it was always the other way around - a new technological development suddenly invalidating a set of laws, and lawmakers playing catch-up with its use. I wish governments of the world got thei…
I partially agree with your points, but I still insist the policy fight is more pressing, because the tech is only possible to use with the right policy. If the US and Europe change to be like China, all that tech is worthless because the spooks can come knock down your door if they suspect you're "hiding something."
This really can't be overstated.
"Engineering around" the failures of democracy in the West won't work. We need to fix the issues with our democracies and change the policies.
Re: VPNs are not the solution to a policy problem
#165Lots of people seem to think the right answer is selling improved security. I disagree. It would be much more exiting to get the data coming from politicians homes, and the homes of their staff. It would be a fantastic way to generate news. Why is senator X's household researching cancer treatment? Will they step down this year? I can't help but think military bases would google their next deployment, that's another…
The Video Privacy Protection Act was passed after Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork's rental history was leaked to a newspaper.
That's amazing. I...just...wow. Wow.
Re: VPNs are not the solution to a policy problem
#166There are a few schools of thought on where responsibility should lie in protecting user privacy. The first that it is a role of government and policy - in the same way the government sets standards for automobile and road safety they can set and enforce policies for user privacy. The second school of thought is individual responsibility. Users should take steps to protect their own privacy on a case-by-case basis, i…
> Users should take steps to protect their own privacy on a case-by-case basis, in the same way they look after their own home security or personal safety.
While I agree with your point, home and personal safety are completely broken analogies for this problem. They are regulated heavily by policy (criminal law) and violations enforced by the government (law enforcement).
Re: VPNs are not the solution to a policy problem
#167Another thing often overlooked with VPNs is that they're just not that fast. I have a 600/40 connection, and I've tried at least six for-pay VPN providers. The fastest one I found (won't mention as my goal isn't to advertise for them) hits, at best, 100/30. And even then, only over L2TP. For whatever reason, OpenVPN is always slower on every PC I've tried this with. And obviously, you gain a good deal of latency, esp…
Netflix doesn't block me with VPN. Is this also a US thing?
Re: VPNs are not the solution to a policy problem
#168There are a few schools of thought on where responsibility should lie in protecting user privacy. The first that it is a role of government and policy - in the same way the government sets standards for automobile and road safety they can set and enforce policies for user privacy. The second school of thought is individual responsibility. Users should take steps to protect their own privacy on a case-by-case basis, i…
> The second school of thought is individual responsibility. Users should take steps to protect their own privacy on a case-by-case basis, in the same way they look after their own home security or personal safety. > I personally believe in user responsibility for personal privacy and security, where you can't and shouldn't depend on policy to protect you and that all users should be aware of the issues and actively…
The other problem is that most peoples' home security is not effective against anything except casual intrusions (i.e. drunk people accidentally entering the wrong house).
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#169After reading digital ocean the 10th time on here. What makes people think that using a american company that complies with american laws and regularly gives out data is a much better option than renting a VPN in a country that still has privacy in place?
Re: VPNs are not the solution to a policy problem
#170Does anyone sell a router for the home that has a VPN built in? So that I dont have to have every computer in my home hook into the VPN when I start it up. Just one account for my whole house? I imagine you could setup a linux box to do that for you, but I am lazy...
Get a asus rt-n16, and throw advanced tomato on it. Then plug in vpn settings into the vpn client, and your all set.
Thx for the suggestion, advanced tomato looks great.
Some of the reports on the rt-n16's capacitor issues concern me. But then again I am getting in the habit of replacing the capacitors in my electronics.