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Re: A profound apology

#163

I would like to hear an argument for why Travis should remain as CEO. In my mind there's simply been too many colossal failures as a leader, and while I don't consider this video in particular to be resignation worthy, I feel like it's just another datapoint in a growing dataset showing that he's not mature enough (at 40 no less) to handle his role. A straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. This letter seems…

Being an ass hole is sometimes an effective form of leadership. This event may be a datapoint FOR keeping him as a leader. Steve Jobs was an ass hole.

Travis Kalanick is not Steve Jobs.

Re: A profound apology

#164
post #145

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I'm a different person than I was ten years ago. Some things remained the same, a few things changed.

It's hard to quantify how "different of a person" you are. But if there's one thing reading psych literature taught me it's that traits like aggression and compassion (or lack thereof) are measurable and shockingly persistent in people over decades. Circumstances, triggers, and incentives change wildly. The world is in flux. But people's attitudes generally are not.

There's a huge difference between "can't" and "don't." People can change.

Re: A profound apology

#165
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I'm guessing (matter-of-factly) that you don't have a degree in psychology.

IIRC, there were two traits that don't seem to change over the course of one's life: gregariousness, and level of anxiety. Traits other than those two can change. Classic example: an alcoholic who becomes sober.

An alcoholic that becomes sober is still an alcoholic, they are just in control over their alcoholism.

Re: A profound apology

#166
I suspect Uber's board was threatening to fire him. A person like Kalanick makes no apologies unless forced to do so by people even more powerful than him.

Re: A profound apology

#167
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Here's the conversation that took place: Travis: So we are reducing the number of black cars in the next few months. Fawzi: It’s good. Travis: You probably saw some email. Fawzi: I saw the email [that says] it starts in May. But you’re raising the standards and dropping the prices. Travis: We’re not dropping the prices on Black. Fawzi: But in general. Travis: In general, but we have competitors. Otherwise we’d be out…

I completely agree with Travis and I don't think he did anything wrong. I think it was a bad move on his part to apologize for the video.

Re: A profound apology

#168

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Profound has two meanings. You're confusing one meaning ("having great knowledge or insight") with the other ("very great or intense"). "He has profound insights on the topic of healthcare" vs. "Please accept my profound sorrow for your loss".

No. The profound in "please accept my sorrow" is a comment on the depth of your sorrow, something that you are uniquely equipped to describe. "A profound apology follows:" is a comment on how I expect my reader to interpret this message, something I am not at all equipped to describe.

I'm pretty sure Travis didn't mean that his apology was particularly insightful.

Re: A profound apology

#169

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Jesus Christ[0]? I hate to digress from this topic, so I won't in depth, but this whole "good tree, bad tree" philosophy is central to protestant theology and has had an impact on Western culture, while it is often not true, in my opinion. Another variant is the "bitter water, sweet water" parable from Jude. [0] https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A15-...

I have a different experience. If people were actually trying to change, they would. People who don't change, don't want to change. Being the kind of asshole that Travis is gradually proving to be, at the age of 40; is a pretty lousy indicator.

I don't know enough about Kalanick to say whether he can change or not. My opinion is actually similar yours, a lot has to will with will. Some people find it very difficult to change even if they want to, but if someone doesn't want to, the chances of them changes drops dramatically.

Re: A profound apology

#170

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Brother J?

Jesus Christ[0]? I hate to digress from this topic, so I won't in depth, but this whole "good tree, bad tree" philosophy is central to protestant theology and has had an impact on Western culture, while it is often not true, in my opinion. Another variant is the "bitter water, sweet water" parable from Jude. [0] https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A15-...

Cited passage does not support the thesis that people cannot change.
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