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Re: Kodak Ektra

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I'm curious what exactly will the "haptic touch" technology of the dial be? Do you know of any consumer-grade products with (hopefully) non-buzzer haptic feedback on touchscreen available on the market yet?

The iPhone. Scroll a selector wheel, like a date picker, on an iPhone 7. It's very impressive.

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I absolutely love these platforms for travel. I have a similar model (a Panasonic/Leica Android phone). It has a very large sensor and sim tray. As result I can run a local sim in WiFi hotspot mode for my primary iPhone and still get great photos with a 2-in-1 device. The photo quality is fantastic and it beats having to carry a small mirrorless camera around. Being able to run Photoshop Lightroom right on the device…

Unfortunately, most reviewers agreed that the Hasselblad camera is not much more than a "proof of concept", and the photo quality from the phone itself is often better.

Which is sad - it's an opportunity squandered.

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Compact mirrorless cameras are the big third category you're missing, I think. They're the perfect mix of quality, portability, and discreetness, which makes them excellent for travel and street photography. The Fuji X series are great examples. I wouldn't dream of taking my Canon 6D backpacking, but my X100T goes with me everywhere and produces excellent shots. My Instagram handle is @paulwithap if you want to see s…

Agreed! I used to have a Nikon D7000, which isn't even that big when it comes to DSLRs, but it was too heavy and too big and I ended up basically never taking it out, sometimes even while traveling. About two years ago I got a Fuji X-T1 and it's honestly one of the best things I've ever bought. It's small, light enough, amazingly built, their lenses are incredible, and it's just so functional. The WiFi functionality…

Yep! My next camera purchase is the X-T2. I can't wait!

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There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

> Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras.

Given that outside US and a few other countries they have a market share around 20%, and most of those countries use pre-paid mobile phones, I think there are plenty of opportunities there.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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No word on the either the size of the sensor nor the focal length of the lens. Not what you would expect from a camera announcement...

Sensor size is the big one since that will determine signal to noise ratio and ultimately the end result for any given computation.

It is definitely a Sony sensor, thought to be the previous-gen IMX230 ( same as in the Experia Z4 and iPhone 6). So that's 1/2.4 inches, or 5.92x4.57mm. Pretty much standard fare for Chinese mid-tier Mediatek phones.

For comparison the famous Nokia 808 had a 1/1.2 inch sensor, 10.67x8.00mm.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

According to the IDC[1] iPhone currently has less that 12% of the overall market. While that might represent a larger percentage of people who care about photography, there appears to still be a very large potential market for this. [1] http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

That's a percentage of phones. Presumably a decent portion of those are very very cheap and not particularly comparable to this or an iPhone other than "includes phone and a browser".

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You have to applaud Kodak for taking a risk. If the camera functionality is that much better, some customer segment might be compelled. It's hard to say until the product is available. Future iPhone customers will benefit from this product release. If it's at all better, you better believe this will only push Apple's camera engineering team harder.

Maybe. If the quality of those test shots on the OP are anything to go by I doubt it. I have some very similar outdoors photos (overcast and green) from my Nexus 5X which at least to my eye look a lot better - http://imgur.com/a/3U9sv - and allegedly the Pixel is even better still. Certainly those on the page seem to be very noisy and strangely lit even when scaled down to thumbnails. i dunno, maybe it's like "hardwa…

I have a similar experience with the Nexus 5. The photos look good. But the ergonomy is horrible. It isn't a camera, it's a smartphone. I can't hold it still for 5 seconds. And I almost always block the lens with my hand because they put it in the corner. It's great for taking shots of cats and having it always on you but if you ever used a good camera, then it's no replacement for a real camera.

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post #152

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

If by "phone" you mean "pocket computer with native apps and a slick UI," then I agree, Kodak will probably suck as a "phone." Otherwise, I can't imagine the phone part could be that much worse than Apple.

Your comment made me look - the iOS phone app is probably my least used app. According to the battery usage statistics it uses 3% of battery. I took a couple of calls this week so it's probably abnormally high too. I wonder what typical smartphone "phone" usage is?

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That is the key insight here, particularly when you see what other branded gadgets this Bullitt Group have, Kodak have just become a brand name that can be licensed by third parties. There is no connection to the Kodak we know, impetus came from outside. It seems that Bullitt can innovate, their camera-phone for Caterpillar has some thermal imaging aspect to it. Here I think they have gone for nostalgia with the name…

Here's a neat idea: a smartphone, with a great camera, that doubles as a recharging brick. For itself. So basically a high-end smartphone like we have today that isn't "Half a millimetre thinner TM" but a full centimetre thicker . Now that would be innovative!

You say, and it's here (Moto Z mods)

https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-mods/incipio-offgr...

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