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Freedom is not freedom without power to exercise said freedom.

There is no law preventing me from doing 100 pushups right now. Yet I also find myself powerless to do it. Does that mean I'm not free to do pushups?

I don't know. Do you have an overweight orange self-styled billionaire standing on your shoulders?

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#162
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He's making a wise investment decision - if Trump wins he will probably gain a lot in favors. If Trump loses, he will lose a little bit of money and some goodwill of some people. I'm sure he can live with that. Cynical.

I'd absolutely agree if I thought: 1. Thiel needed favors 2. Trump was going to hand out favors 3. It wasn't too late. #3 is really what gets me. We've got 3 weeks. Mail-in ballots are out in a bunch of states already. Peoples' minds are made up. The election is basically over. If you believe in extreme polling error, sure, Trump could win -- but, again, it's so late, will this have made the difference? I almost wond…

It's almost certainly too late to elect Trump, but it isn't too late to be a first investor in Trump Media, with Roger Ailes and Stephen Bannon.

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#163
post #89

He's making a wise investment decision - if Trump wins he will probably gain a lot in favors. If Trump loses, he will lose a little bit of money and some goodwill of some people. I'm sure he can live with that. Cynical.

I'd absolutely agree if I thought: 1. Thiel needed favors 2. Trump was going to hand out favors 3. It wasn't too late. #3 is really what gets me. We've got 3 weeks. Mail-in ballots are out in a bunch of states already. Peoples' minds are made up. The election is basically over. If you believe in extreme polling error, sure, Trump could win -- but, again, it's so late, will this have made the difference? I almost wond…

The favors you can get from politicians are never in short supply. Buy shares of them whenever you can.

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Politics aside. What does it say about his judgement to continue investing in something that is statistically on track to fail. Not only that, but its also a toxic brand to attach yourself to. Or do we just put this in the "expensive new hobby" section and leave it at that. ---- Update: I want to hijack my own comment to ponder something. As someone with no money and no influence, I find it hard to think about how to…

Pretty much all of Thiel's investing thesis is to invest in things that are statistically on track to fail, but whose payoff if they succeed is greater than most people imagine. PayPal, Facebook - both of these were terrible ideas when they came out (along with a number of other ones that did, in fact, fail). His idea is that people consistently mis-price risk, and so investing in a portfolio where everyone else thin…

1.25M, not 12.5M.

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#165

Its unclear what Peter Thiel is supporting with this donation. This candidate is highly inconsistent. Perhaps his bet is that if this candidate is elected, it will result in chaos. A sharp, rapid upheaval will enable him to accelerate his overall agenda. Given his net worth he is insulated from the negative effects this chaos will have on everyone else. Given his net worth he, and others who support his agenda can qu…

Profiting off the chaos seems much more likely than relying on Trump to keep his word or re-pay favors. I'm not sure which is more reprehensible, actually supporting Trump's general platform, or 'merely' hoping his election destabilizes the country enough for Thiel to advance his personal goals.

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Available jobs increase with population. Additional people need more services, goods, etc. This leads to increased demand. In other words, more people are needed to produce stuff for more people.

Required jobs scale very very poorly with population. I wouldn't be surprised if the rate was something less than 1 additional person in the workforce for every 10 additional people in the population.

That would mean that countries with larger populations would have higher unemployment rates, but that is not the case.

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Its unclear what Peter Thiel is supporting with this donation. This candidate is highly inconsistent. Perhaps his bet is that if this candidate is elected, it will result in chaos. A sharp, rapid upheaval will enable him to accelerate his overall agenda. Given his net worth he is insulated from the negative effects this chaos will have on everyone else. Given his net worth he, and others who support his agenda can qu…

The policies on donaldjtrump.com have been the same for a long time, and Trump has not contradicted them for the most part.

Yes, his campaign staff has a policy list. But does the man consistently stand by them and defend them each time? Nope[1]. Take the recent contradiction with Pence on Syria, for example. The traditional republicans are hoping he will implement their party's platform. But with a man so erratic and impulsive, and with mostly unchecked power of executive, how can anyone be sure?

[1] - http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-dona...

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#168
Perhaps a better supported Trump will continue to widen the gulf between the candidate and the GOP, and that in turn will create a vacuum of opportunity for change after the election.

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#169

I'm genuinely curious what the rational for Thiel is in doing this. He's a smart guy, but I just don't see the ROI. At this point, it seems very unlikely that Trump will get elected. So Thiel isn't getting access to a future President. Plus, in addition to the monetary cost of the donation there's definitely a very real reputational cost. A lot of people in SV hate Trump and are completely mystified as to Thiel's sup…

> I'm genuinely curious what the rational for Thiel is in doing this.

Maybe he's just a racist who holds women in contempt and hates muslims. It's hardly unheard of.

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#170
Everything has to be such a spectacle, so black-and-white and binary in the US.

The forum discussions, here and elsewhere, give outside observers this impression:

  |=============================X=| Candidate X: some minor flaws, but overall a great option
  |=X=============================| Candidate Y: the new Hitler, world falls apart if elected
For reference, here is how many people in (not only) Europe view this "great American match":

  |============================X==| amazing candidate
  |================X==============| acceptable candidate
  |=======X=======================| Clinton & Trump: dishonest, obviously manipulative untrustworthy crooks
                                    within rounding error of each other
Is the election system so broken that these two are the best USA can offer?
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