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Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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Lots of vendors already offer this. It's pretty standard for commercial WiFi units. It's just slightly more expensive than dumb routers. * Eero: https://eero.com/ * Ubuquiti: https://www.ubnt.com * Cisco: http://www.cisco.com (sized for larger buildings) Does this new Google device come with the Google Fi feature which backhauls all your traffic to Google via a VPN?

http://www.open-mesh.com/ ???

Yes. That cloud setup punches through firewalls and is just turn key. I wish they made routers.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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post #42

Lots of vendors already offer this. It's pretty standard for commercial WiFi units. It's just slightly more expensive than dumb routers. * Eero: https://eero.com/ * Ubuquiti: https://www.ubnt.com * Cisco: http://www.cisco.com (sized for larger buildings) Does this new Google device come with the Google Fi feature which backhauls all your traffic to Google via a VPN?

No. It comes with pretty much nothing but a nice little price break. You get a 3-pack for $299. The Eero 3-pack is $499.00. This is a serious price break in this market, which is currently over-priced. You can get 3 Ubiquities for almost $300. A lot less user friendly, but $500 for 3 units is holding back mass adoption. Personally, for my home I need just two units. Shame there's no $199 2-pack yet. It would be an in…

If they made a 2 pack it would probably be around $230 with my guesstimate.

  3-pack $300 or $100/item
  2-pack $230 or $115/item
  1-pack $130 or $130/item

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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post #105

Just for everyone focusing on gimmicky features, this is an OnHub, which are intended to just work. Under the hood, they run ChromiumOS, including things like trusted boot (yes, this home router has a tpm), and the A/B partitions so when you get an automatic update, (which happens during a time of low bandwidth usage), it reboots into the new version in about 6 seconds. The security team is awesome: they pushed an up…

What are the user privacy policies and technical implementations?

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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post #60

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Ubiquiti Unifi Access Points just work. I too have bought a variety of high end consumer devices (for a small business), and they all crash or randomly drop out. Disable wifi radio on router, plug in Unifi AP, solid connection. They are annoying to configure, but have been so worth it. Apple AirPort has also been rock solid.

Motion seconded on Unifi. I've just deployed these and they're so far a delight. The PoE (power-over-ethernet) support is great -- if you can get the ethernet cable to the AP's location, you're good. Allows for zero visible cable installations if you have the opportunity to do in-wall cabling. I did spring for a "Unifi Cloud Key", which is just a small (pack of cards sized), dedicated host for running the Unifi Contr…

I wish they didn't do 24V PoE. I know they are coming from a WISP background, but a AP seems like something that should support 802.11af. It's not like it's something exotic.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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Serious question: whose WiFi is not working, to the degree that they think, "I really need to get a modern router to make this Internet thing actually work." I'm seeing about a dozen fancy modern wifi routers all trying to solve a problem I'm not sure exists.

I'm in Chicago, in a dense-but-not-a-high-rise area. LTE on my phone was drastically better than wifi on any device -- on weekday evenings, my laptop was useless. In a 700 square foot apartment. Bought an OnHub, now shit works. Google is definitely not full of shit when they say that the routers are really solid at optimizing the setup.

I could've fussed with placement of the old router, hunted through the channels, installed different firmware, or whatever -- but I don't spend that much time at home, and that's no longer what I'm interested in fiddling with.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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post #143

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I own an Android device and it's still a dealbreaker. I thought it was cool to deploy a web application from my smartphone but after having done it once or twice, and two or three times having to hotfix production stuff from my smartphone, I can say it's not a device made to configure anything except alarm clocks.

In this case, OnHub has pretty much no configuration other than the SSID and password.

That's terrible. What about:

- Proxy settings - MAC address cloning - Port forwarding - Strict security controls - Wifi bands, 2.4 vs 5GHz (I guess this is less important) - Logs

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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post #124

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Okay, that's a bit better, but it should still have a web interface.

There are security implications: How do you provision a cert for it? Do you really want it running a full web server? The native application is pretty great, because I can manage it from anywhere. (Which includes managing my parents one from anywhere.) I've honestly not needed a web interface, after getting used to it. A web interface is reportedly on the roadmap, but not a high priority. The last time it came up on…

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Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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post #162

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"The AmpliFi online store is currently available only for US-based customers."

You have to buy from a European reseller.

Since the power plug is built into the repeaters, I assume I won't be able to plug it directly into my Australian wall socket.
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