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Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by daptaq »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #155
ultramancool wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try NewPipe, it's an open source YouTube downloader and background player for Android: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpi...

I just tried NewPipe. However, after downloading a video, you can no longer play it directly in NewPipe (with NewPipe's ability to play in the background), only in an external player.

If you install VLC, you can let videos (or audios) play in the background. I also found it more stable for watching/streaming longer in NewPipe.

For that reason I call it NewPipe/VLC, or as I've recently taken to calling it, NewPipe plus VLC.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by pjmlp »

movedx wrote: post #131
ashark wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Inbox, gmail, android mail (though this got deprecated) Don't forget the cleanest, best-performing one: the classic "Basic HTML" interface. Which manages to be much faster for most operations than Inbox or the AJAXified normal version despited having to reload the whole page.

You just have to love that classic approach to web development, right? JavaScript is great for improving the user experience, but it's often vastly overused and just makes me scream for simpler times such as the classic web app.

"Modern" web has made me embrace back native development and see the web as HTML/CSS only, as it should have stayed.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by Sylos »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #39
ultramancool wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try NewPipe, it's an open source YouTube downloader and background player for Android: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpi...

Looks promising. Doesn't seem to support subscriptions, though, which is the problem every unofficial YouTube app seems to have. Probably because logging in and accessing subscriptions requires the API, which has a ToS.

I personally use an RSS Reader to handle my "subscriptions".

The YouTube-webpage also has an option to export your subscriptions to an OPML-file (which can then be imported into an RSS Reader): Log into your YouTube-account, then go to "Manage Subscriptions", and then at the bottom of that page, there's a button for it.

(This is how it worked a few months ago. I actually don't have a YouTube-account anymore, so I can't check if it still works like that.)

On Android, I personally use SpaRSS [0] with it, which does work quite well, but it being available on F-Droid was pretty much essential to me, so if you don't care about FLOSS, you might be able to find an RSS Reader which integrates even better with this setup...

[0]: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=net.etuldan.spar...

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by yhager »

yellowapple wrote: post #134
ultramancool wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try NewPipe, it's an open source YouTube downloader and background player for Android: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpi...

NewPipe is what I use exclusively now for YouTube (my phone is currently GApps-free). Works great.

I'm curious, how do you make your phone GApps free? I want to uninstall them but don't want to brick it..

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by Sylos »

terda12 wrote: post #117
qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #66

Google still doesn't know what it's doing with YouTube. As a longtime consumer of YouTube videos, and somebody who is actually inside of the YouTube community, I understand that. The "Advertiser Friendly" policy was universally mocked for being absurd, and it is. Then there's the indication that it was behind the inexplicable monetization drops on major channels a few months back. The YouTube team has been seen to do…

Honestly they could have just left youtube alone, let it generate ad revenue in return for hosting videos, and that's it. No need for youtube red, youtube go, "advertiser friendly" crap. Just keep running youtube and use that revenue to fund other projects.

I've heard a few times already that Google isn't actually making a revenue off of YouTube and rather just paying to keep it alive. No idea, if that's true, though. There's also the consideration that having a YouTube-account gets you into the whole Google-ecosystem, so might actually pay off on other ends.

Still doesn't explain, though, why they keep making such bad investments...

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by gman99 »

ultramancool wrote: post #36
JoshTriplett wrote: post #19

Hopefully this will actually work in all countries; I'd love to save videos for offline viewing while I have a wifi connection and watch them later when I don't. But that would compete with "YouTube Red". For that matter, since an offline video eliminates the buffering problem, I'd love to have the "playback speed" feature in the mobile app. The web version of YouTube supports changing the playback speed to 1.25x, 1.…

Try NewPipe, it's an open source YouTube downloader and background player for Android: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpi...

There is also this app [1] (shameless plug, I wrote it) which uses youtube-dl to download videos off any supported sites. No real UI as it just parses the media URL (when a link is shared to it) and passes it off to the android download manager.

I threw it together (over a few hours) simply because I like watching stuff on youtube at 1.5x speed and the android app does not allow you to do it (whereas if you use VLC to play the downloaded video, you can increaseplayback speed)

It's also available on the play store [2] with youtube downloads disabled by default

[1] https://github.com/zeronickname/VideoDownloader

[2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.me.gman.get...

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by gman99 »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #83
JoshTriplett wrote: post #19

Hopefully this will actually work in all countries; I'd love to save videos for offline viewing while I have a wifi connection and watch them later when I don't. But that would compete with "YouTube Red". For that matter, since an offline video eliminates the buffering problem, I'd love to have the "playback speed" feature in the mobile app. The web version of YouTube supports changing the playback speed to 1.25x, 1.…

I tend to use youtube-dl to grab what I want while at my laptop and sync to my phone so that I have things to watch while about. Not a perfect solution, but works for me for now.

As I mentioned in the other [1] thread, you can use this android app [2] (which uses youtube-dl) to download directly onto your phone. If you're on iOS, sorry :(

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12595973

[2] https://github.com/zeronickname/VideoDownloader

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by Sylos »

flinty wrote: post #33
ghostly_s wrote: post #20

As much as this sounds like something I would personally be very interested in, I can't help but think it doesn't fit into Google's ideal of how customers use their products. Rather I get the impression they're pursuing this begrudgingly just as a way to get into the Indian market; the announcement is notably non-committal about it ever being rolled out in the US.

Agreed 100%. Same was the case with Google maps download for offline use. They added that feature after a lot of feet dragging.

I've also found the offline use in Google Maps to be horribly unreliable. I had Google Maps set up with an offline map and, two times in a row, when I wanted to actually use it, the offline map had disappeared from my phone for whatever reason.

This was a good while ago, so I don't know, if it's still the case. All I know is that I switched to OsmAnd~, set that up once and since then always reliably had a map in my pocket.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by Sylos »

Cyph0n wrote: post #72
joncalhoun wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do this on Android. At least I can, as a Google music subscriber (so I have YouTube Red). I just tested it with a random video.

Why isn't this a free feature though?

Because why should it be? People are willing to pay for it.

This is especially also the case, as Google could abuse some sentence in the YouTube API ToS, which prohibits the separation of audio and video, to get rid of third-party YouTube apps which offered this functionality for free before YouTube Red became a thing. If those had been around, they couldn't really have charged money for it.

There are still a few of those apps available on non-Play-Store-stores, as Google would have had to deal with legal entities to get rid of those (and would have probably lost), but most people never use alternative stores, so that's not really a problem for Google.

One of those apps is NewPipe, if you want it for free: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpi...

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