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Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by megablast »

datguacdoh wrote: post #40
wlesieutre wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not really surprising given the device's age Nexus 5 released late 2013, last major OS update in late 2015. Compare to the iPhone 4S, which came out late 2011 and still got iOS 9 (4 years later). Really not buying the "two years is plenty of updates" excuse, especially from the Nexus line.

Not entirely fair comparison since the 4S didn't get every feature; it was a paired down version. AFAIK, Google doesn't cherrypick features for older hardware - it's all our nothing. Also, the 4S ran terribly on ios9, to the point that two of my friends with 4S's just gave in and bought new iphones instead.

> Google doesn't cherrypick features for older hardware - it's all our nothing.

well they should.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

primo44 wrote: post #35

No Android 7 on my Nexus 5 might just be what pushes me to iOS. I've gone from being an Android evangelist to being an Android apologist ("Yeah, battery life sucks. Google has failed to fix it after X years") to now being, frankly, pissed off that my expensive phone is going to be left behind.

Battery life sucks on Android flagship phones because they are running so many peripherals and the devs don't bother with aggressive power management. That is not Android's fault.

Witness the $200 phones that get spectacular battery life on stock Android primarily because they aren't running hardware that mostly goes unused and are unburdened by poorly designed launchers written by enterprisey Java devs.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by awill »

UncleChis wrote: post #65

Did I read it right: Nexus Player is in the list of OTA update? I thought the device is dead? Anyone has a link of Nougat for Android TV?

It is dead. But Google are required to meet their OTA promise. 2 years for major updates, 3 years for security updates.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by stormbeta »

primo44 wrote: post #35

No Android 7 on my Nexus 5 might just be what pushes me to iOS. I've gone from being an Android evangelist to being an Android apologist ("Yeah, battery life sucks. Google has failed to fix it after X years") to now being, frankly, pissed off that my expensive phone is going to be left behind.

Between the volatile battery life and Android OEMs almost entirely abandoning the non-phablet market, I'm about ready to move to iOS as well.

I still think Android's UX blows iOS out of the water these days, but the best UX in the world doesn't help me if the phone is dead, or too big to use one-handed on the go.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by akhilcacharya »

primo44 wrote: post #35

No Android 7 on my Nexus 5 might just be what pushes me to iOS. I've gone from being an Android evangelist to being an Android apologist ("Yeah, battery life sucks. Google has failed to fix it after X years") to now being, frankly, pissed off that my expensive phone is going to be left behind.

I saw this coming and the rumors of the headphone-less iPhone 7 so I took the plunge on the 6S. I miss quite a few Android features but the experience is still pretty darn good.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by velox_io »

1171.5MB for the download alone!

It is a shame about the Nexus5 not getting the update, it's still a pretty decent phone and not slow by any means.

I broke the screen on my Nexus5 recently so I brought a Nexus6, so far the battery seems to be worse than the N5 (I miss the wireless charging), so I'm looking forward to the battery improvements!

Edit: The split screen is a great feature, and not finicky at all. Being able to play videos in the background is going to be one of those features that you cannot live without (OK, it's a first world problem).

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by voltagex_ »

pasbesoin wrote: post #131
ConroyBumpus wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things are tough all over. Signed, person that bought a first generation iPad.

Yeah. First world problem, or whatever. But, like my 2013 Moto X, it's irritating to get less than 2 years out of a multiple hundred dollar product that otherwise is fine. And I would have bought the successor to the Nexus 7, except there was none, really -- nothing comparable and problem free (in addition to the price bump and larger size, the 9 had issues, initially, IIRC). And... after the Moto X, and observing ho…

>2013 Moto X

I've got the 2014/2015 Moto X (XT1592) and it's sitting on the May 2016 security update... which is very vulnerable.

https://twitter.com/Moto_Support/status/766770218555375616

"Unlocking" the phone results in a tricky to remove boot-warning screen and

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by mbell »

datguacdoh wrote: post #159
threeseed wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comments like this are ridiculous. It wasn't a pared down operating system by any definition. Features just weren't available if you didn't have the requisite hardware.

Not everything was hardware related, or at least not obviously hardware related. My friends both really wanted public transit directions in maps and airdrop but neither feature shipped on the 4S. I also seem to remember that predictive Siri (Google Now-ish competitor, don't remember what they called that) didn't make it to the 4S. So I do commend apple for getting updates to that device for 4 years, but at least in t…

> My friends both really wanted public transit directions in maps and airdrop but neither feature shipped on the 4S. I also seem to remember that predictive Siri (Google Now-ish competitor, don't remember what they called that) didn't make it to the 4S.

As I recall all those features were built only for 64bit CPUs which the 4s/mini didn't have.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by [deleted] »

datguacdoh wrote: post #159
threeseed wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comments like this are ridiculous. It wasn't a pared down operating system by any definition. Features just weren't available if you didn't have the requisite hardware.

Not everything was hardware related, or at least not obviously hardware related. My friends both really wanted public transit directions in maps and airdrop but neither feature shipped on the 4S. I also seem to remember that predictive Siri (Google Now-ish competitor, don't remember what they called that) didn't make it to the 4S. So I do commend apple for getting updates to that device for 4 years, but at least in t…

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Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by datguacdoh »

mbell wrote: post #168
datguacdoh wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everything was hardware related, or at least not obviously hardware related. My friends both really wanted public transit directions in maps and airdrop but neither feature shipped on the 4S. I also seem to remember that predictive Siri (Google Now-ish competitor, don't remember what they called that) didn't make it to the 4S. So I do commend apple for getting updates to that device for 4 years, but at least in t…

> My friends both really wanted public transit directions in maps and airdrop but neither feature shipped on the 4S. I also seem to remember that predictive Siri (Google Now-ish competitor, don't remember what they called that) didn't make it to the 4S. As I recall all those features were built only for 64bit CPUs which the 4s/mini didn't have.

Oh I never heard that before, interesting and thanks. Well, at least I did say it wasn't "obviously hardware" ;)
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