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How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by kefka »

AstralStorm wrote: post #158
kefka wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carbohydrates are bad for me, period. I'm diabetic (type 2), and even the American Diabetes Association says I should be eating around 60g carbs/meal. After some rudimentary data science liberally using the glucometer, I can tell you what my body does after all types of simple sugars as well as some complex sugars... And my limit per day is around 10g carbs. I will change this up to reintroduce some foods I may not n…

Sample of one without correction for caloric intake? See, losing weight fixes many numbers.

Correct. I only controlled for carbohydrates (total and [carb-fiber] for net carbs )

After 6 days of low carb diet, my hunger went down dramatically, and I started to feel better. I started to notice weight loss around day 10.

Now, the more I study about T2 diabetes, my 'guess' is that it's a metabolic disease. Someone who's T2 gets high blood sugar, the sugar is eventually processed to fat, causing extreme hunger when the glucose is out of the body (back to normal levels), causing the person to eat more carbs.

That would also explain why things like the Atkins diet does work for certain people; it works for those whom are predisposed to T2 diabetes. It doesn't work and can harm greatly those whom aren't susceptible to T2...

But that's my pet theory.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by matwood »

Guildpact wrote: post #58

I eat cereal and milk as a dessert at night in place of something like ice cream, because that is what it is. People who eat cereal for breakfast are no better than people eating donuts or other sweets, it is just an awful way to start your day because of the blood sugar spike and then drop which creates hunger pangs. You can combat it by having a proper breakfast focusing on protein and low glycemic index carbs, egg…

I also eat cereal at night for a snack. My idea of cereal is not what most people on here are hating on though. I am not a sweets person so I gravitate towards the cereals with plain flakes, nuts, and dried fruit.

As far as breakfast goes, when I was in my prime weight lifting days skipping breakfast was never an option. Now that I'm older, coffee with milk works on days I do not go to the gym. On days I do go I just have a protein shake after the gym.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by matwood »

Guildpact wrote: post #58

I eat cereal and milk as a dessert at night in place of something like ice cream, because that is what it is. People who eat cereal for breakfast are no better than people eating donuts or other sweets, it is just an awful way to start your day because of the blood sugar spike and then drop which creates hunger pangs. You can combat it by having a proper breakfast focusing on protein and low glycemic index carbs, egg…

I also eat cereal at night for a snack. My idea of cereal is not what most people on here are hating on though. I am not a sweets person so I gravitate towards the cereals with plain flakes, nuts, and dried fruit.

As far as breakfast goes, when I was in my prime weight lifting days skipping breakfast was never an option. Now that I'm older, coffee with milk works on mornings I do not go to the gym. On mornigins I do go I just have a protein shake after the gym.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by coldpie »

bbarn wrote: post #65

I started to read this with some interest, as someone who's spent many hours thinking about and trying different metabolic strategies, diets, etc.. Then about 30 seconds in my reading got disrupted by a fucking light-box asking me to sign up or log in or god knows what.. my instinct to close tab won out over my curiosity. Please stop this pattern. If you really think your content is worth having to (whatever)wall fro…

NoScript fixes this and does not break the site in any appreciable manner.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by maxerickson »

kefka wrote: post #161
AstralStorm wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sample of one without correction for caloric intake? See, losing weight fixes many numbers.

Correct. I only controlled for carbohydrates (total and [carb-fiber] for net carbs ) After 6 days of low carb diet, my hunger went down dramatically, and I started to feel better. I started to notice weight loss around day 10. Now, the more I study about T2 diabetes, my 'guess' is that it's a metabolic disease. Someone who's T2 gets high blood sugar, the sugar is eventually processed to fat, causing extreme hunger wh…

It's obviously a metabolic disease. Insulin is well described as a metabolic hormone. T2 diabetes is the signal not getting processed.

The big open question is what causes it.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by VLM »

hyperchase wrote: post #53

I need to eat around 3000 calories per day to support my powerlifting training, and if I don't eat something first thing in the morning with a shitload of carbs -- usually something like rolled oats, berries, and a few bananas -- then I'm usually gassed and feeling like crap by 10. A few friends of mine fast intermittently and train in the morning before eating but it's beyond me how that is not just pure torture.

> train in the morning before eating

Welcome to the Army, perhaps. Ask them if they're ex-mil, or are copying someone who's ex-mil.

25 years later the concept of exercising on anything but an empty stomach feels weird to me. Like if you put forth a true 100% effort how do you not puke?

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by sevensor »

matt4077 wrote: post #156
blowski wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A balanced diet where you don't eat too much seems to be the other big idea. Of course, both of these big ideas don't make good books or TV shows or special diet products.

Au contraire! That idea makes an excellent book, and also a pretty good free article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/28/magazine/28nutritionism.t....

The ad playing for me in the margins is, appropriately, for some crunchtastic version Kellog's Raisin Bran. Now with more sweet raisin clusters!

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

ldpg wrote: post #87
bbarn wrote: post #65

I started to read this with some interest, as someone who's spent many hours thinking about and trying different metabolic strategies, diets, etc.. Then about 30 seconds in my reading got disrupted by a fucking light-box asking me to sign up or log in or god knows what.. my instinct to close tab won out over my curiosity. Please stop this pattern. If you really think your content is worth having to (whatever)wall fro…

Completely agree with this. I think there is an analytics blindspot underpinning it. We don't measure the amount of people inclined to just close the tab when they see this, or the negative sentiment it incurs. We might see a nominal rise in email addresses from bots and other braindead folks who fill in these forms, but the negative effect isn't measured.

I wonder if the time delay on these pop-ups is set to avoid being measured by the "bounce rate" or "0-10 second session duration" analytics tools.

This would be especially interesting to measure. While the 0-10 second bounce rate on any site will be somewhat high due to people just looking for something other than the page you give them (I see 50% bounces on a small business site with zero ads), and it's difficult to distinguish these from people who didn't like the ads or format, you could get a precise measurement of exactly how many people close the page within 3 seconds of the pop-up appearing.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by GotAnyMegadeth »

98qz99191 wrote: post #137
solipsism wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ve specifically said ve didn't mind a pay wall. Ve found the the mid-read interruption rude, which I think is totally fair.

I had to google this "ve". At first I thought that you were mimicking a German accent, which did not make sense here.

I'm guessing the result was:

Ve, a proposed gender-neutral pronoun [0]

I hadn't heard of it either.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VE

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by Vendan »

edanm wrote: post #76
bbarn wrote: post #65

I started to read this with some interest, as someone who's spent many hours thinking about and trying different metabolic strategies, diets, etc.. Then about 30 seconds in my reading got disrupted by a fucking light-box asking me to sign up or log in or god knows what.. my instinct to close tab won out over my curiosity. Please stop this pattern. If you really think your content is worth having to (whatever)wall fro…

This company produces great, great content. You agree that it's interesting, from what you've read. And yet apparently the most popular comment on their effort is that you don't want to spare the all-of-2 seconds it takes to click your mouse to close a pop-up? On a site that isn't plastered with ads, btw, and is generally very accessible? I don't mean to take out my frustration on you, and I get where you're coming f…

Well, the other side is that it seems quite pointless. I'm glad it's a simple popover, and not a full page video ad, and it responds nicely to escape. But all that means is I've closed it half a second after it appeared, without reading, with nothing but a grunt of frustration over "yet another popover crap". Is that really the impression this site wants to make? Something unobtrusive in the sidebar that would let me keep reading, and then look at, I would be more inclined to even read...
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