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>~ package metadata, not package data metadata != data ??
You got it.
I would be interested to know what are the other top GitHub repositories. Afaik the Nix package manager uses a similar model (using a GitHub repo as a database), however they periodically release snapshots and the default configuration uses those instead of git.
I'm not sure how DefinitelyTyped works, but their repository https://github.com/DefinitelyTyped/DefinitelyTyped is huge and may be they use that github repository as a single distribution point.
1. NuGet packages, which are built from the GitHub repository but then redistributed over a non-Github CDN (NuGet's)
2. tsd management tool (https://github.com/Definitelytyped/tsd), which looks like it prefers Github's CDN raw URLs rather than full/shallow git clones
3. typings management tool (https://github.com/typings/typings) with "ambient" typings searches (`--ambient` flag), which I believe also prefers Github's CDN raw URLs, as it essentially forked from TSD
That said, it's past time to move beyond the giant huge DefinitelyTyped repo, and I for one heartily recommend people migrate to typings which has better support for NPM and other module and package management systems, as well as smaller unit/module-focused Github repositories.
This reply: https://github.com/CocoaPods/CocoaPods/issues/4989#issuecomm... "Not having to develop a system that somehow syncs required data at all means we get to spend more time on the work that matters more to us, in this case. (i.e. funding of dev hours)" In other words, using github as a free unlimited CDN lets them be as inefficient as they like. Such as having 16k entries in a directory ( https://github.com/Co…
Care to substantiate that last paragraph? Are you really suggesting OS X users use yum?
CocoaPods (and Homebrew) mainly exist because of a lack of tooling in the typical Apple ecosystem. So I would blame Apple for not supporting the community with money or tooling. Letting GitHub with its limited amount of funding pay the bill isn't a nice move. Apple dev relations should throw some money at GitHub so they can provide some dedicated resources or offer to pay the cost of other solutions (like a 3rd party…
CocoaPods exists because developers want to learn how to "build apps" but lack the resources to intelligently include and link to 3rd party code in their projects. CocoaPods doesn't enable anything not otherwise configurable via git submodules and Xcode project hierarchies / build settings. Therefore, it's not Apple's problem. In fact, I've talked to a non-trivial amount of engineers (both in Cupertino and long time…
Afaik the swift package manager works only for swift code, so it's not an replacement.
Also it's a very bad habit to try to stand over the users that supply software for your most valuable product. We've seen a lot of stories lately that indie app development is dead. We also regularly see how weak Apple is in web services (cloud sync).
So either developers invest a lot of time to build something that works (and maybe even share it on GitHub) or they will stick with the holy Apple solution and provide a crappy user experience and go bankrupt. Companies like Google or Amazon (AWS) do a very good propag^developer releations job, IMHO way better than Apple ever did (in the last 10 years).
This reply: https://github.com/CocoaPods/CocoaPods/issues/4989#issuecomm... "Not having to develop a system that somehow syncs required data at all means we get to spend more time on the work that matters more to us, in this case. (i.e. funding of dev hours)" In other words, using github as a free unlimited CDN lets them be as inefficient as they like. Such as having 16k entries in a directory ( https://github.com/Co…
Care to substantiate that last paragraph? Are you really suggesting OS X users use yum?
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Until recently iOS only supported statically linked libraries which could lead to issues if you needed to use multiple components that had a shared dependency that you needed to upgrade for one reason or another. You couldn't touch the embedded version. Additionally there was no native package manager which made sharing libraries a clumsy affair. Cocoapods makes both cases easier.
Dynamic libraries don't help shared dependencies, do they? In both cases, you want the shared dependency to be in its own library. There is a difference in that duplicated dependencies in shared libraries will produce a subtle runtime error rather than an obvious build-time error, but that's not really better.
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> you're abusing Cocoapods uses GitHub. No abuse here.
You're quibbling semantics. Using a GitHub repo as a high traffic code CDN and keeping 5+ cores pegged while being the single biggest consumer of resources across the whole platform could be reasonably defined as an abuse of the service. Primary definitions on Google: "abuse" verb: use (something) to bad effect "abuse" noun: the improper use of something
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I was astonished at how selfish/myopic/whatever alloy's response was. To be blunt, you're abusing the shit out of SOMEONE ELSE'S product that you're not even paying for. Your first question shouldn't be to see what Github can do for you to make it so you don't have to make changes. You should be falling over yourself investigating all available avenues for reducing load. It's an incredibly entitled way to think about…
I don't know, it sounded to me like he just didn't totally understand what Github was saying. By the end of the thread, it seemed like everyone was agreeing. I wouldn't be comfortable using words like "selfish" to describe any of what I read. I certainly don't think the barb about your willingness to employ people who write things on Github issues threads that you disagree with is helping anyone understand any part o…
this is what we used to call the "good" problem (things breaking because they are successful), but that doesn't make it cheap or easy to fix. the other stuff they're talking about in the thread will alleviate some pain and buy some time, but it won't solve the fundamental problem if CocoaPods continues to get "big" (imagine apt or yum trying to run like this).
i understand their want to maintain the simple and coherent workflow... if i was writing a package dist sys, i would love to have it work off a standard git repo. maybe this is something that could be solved with a plugin architecture like the large binaries stuff so that developers could continue with their preferred workflow but end-users could take advantage of a CDN-like system for distribution.
Note how perfect that response from mhagger is. A clear, honest sounding assurance of what Github wants to deliver. A perfectly comprehensible description of what is the problem, and where it is coming from. And then suggestion how to fix it the project actually can work on, plus mentioning changes to git itself that Github is trying to make that would help. It not only shows great work going on behind the scenes (an…
I was astonished at how selfish/myopic/whatever alloy's response was. To be blunt, you're abusing the shit out of SOMEONE ELSE'S product that you're not even paying for. Your first question shouldn't be to see what Github can do for you to make it so you don't have to make changes. You should be falling over yourself investigating all available avenues for reducing load. It's an incredibly entitled way to think about…