Man that logo is similar to Workfront's: https://www.workfront.com
Workfront's trademark doesn't seem to be an issue for Brave due to different use fields. Looks like Eich can't make a calendaring app though :-)
Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup
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Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't adblock for privacy, security, or speed. Those are just nice-side effects. I adblock because I do not want to be manipulated into buying things I do not need. Interesting. I'm the opposite. I've yet to encounter an ad that has a hope in hell of manipulating me at all. I couldn't be more dismissive of them. And if I encounter one too often my dislike of the company starts to grow. "It's show time, and you've b…
> I've yet to encounter an ad that has a hope in hell of manipulating me at all. If you know what "just do it", "the happiest place on Earth", "think different", or "the world's most advanced operating system" refer to, you've already been manipulated. A lot of ads are just about making sure you have a particular brand in mind and you're keenly aware of that brand's existence. Then, when time comes around to actually…
I agree for the most part, but there is a not insignificant part of the population for which those things don't matter.
I know a good number of people who don't buy Nike products, don't own a Mac, and haven't been to any theme parks. For those people, whether or not they know the slogan doesn't matter: if you only drink water then 100 Coke vs Pepsi ads do nothing; if you run an obscure Linux distro you'll laugh at both the "think different" and "the world's most advanced operating system" ads; if you wear "the cheap black ones I think?" then the $90 Nikes won't get your dollar over the $40 New Balance shoes. I'm not saying that's the best way to live your life, but it certainly is one way to neatly sidestep the modern manipulation of ads.
Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup
#163This will be banned by app stores and such and quickly.
Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup
#164I will repeat this one more time, because Eich seems to be missing the point.[1] I don't adblock for privacy, security, or speed. Those are just nice-side effects. I adblock because I do not want to be manipulated into buying things I do not need. I wonder what would happen if, as a society, we said, "enough, no more ads". Would it really be the capitalist apocalypse that the ad industry is trying to make us believe…
I want to say exactly the same thing. I block ads because I don't want to see ads at all. As long as there is the ad blocker, I don't want to use brave.
If you don't want to see ads at all why not just refrain from visiting the offending sites?
Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup
#165Where is the incentive for the user to use this thing?
Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why else would one oppose marriage equality?
>> "Why else would one oppose marriage equality?" There are many reasons why we oppose gay marriage, and none of them are because we have irrational fears of gay people. We have moral reasons, reasons due to time-honored traditions, societal reasons, child-rearing reasons, and more. See my post here: http://judahgabriel.blogspot.com/2015/07/torah-tuesdays-god-...
I don't imagine that grounding your pseudo-rational argument against gay marriage in religious texts will garner much traction here.
There might be arguments from child-rearing benefits and social obligations...but using the Bible to justify those benefits seems like circular logic.
Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup
#167I will repeat this one more time, because Eich seems to be missing the point.[1] I don't adblock for privacy, security, or speed. Those are just nice-side effects. I adblock because I do not want to be manipulated into buying things I do not need. I wonder what would happen if, as a society, we said, "enough, no more ads". Would it really be the capitalist apocalypse that the ad industry is trying to make us believe…
I get your point, and it is a good one. We have a micro payments channel to publishers, frictionless and anonymous, under construction, for folks who want no ads and who will pay. Other users than you will be able to mix and match, too: better and more private ads on sites they don't support, with a revenue share to these users that they can spend on sites they do. We aren't saying "only ads". We do see ads as a nece…
I would love if it was more viable to choose between ads and payment. I don't know how much my current Web habits would end up costing. But if it was a lot, I could stand to cut down on my Web surfing. There are after all other worthwhile things to do.
Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup
#168Its by the same guy who donated to causes doing their best to make sure two people in love can't get married due to their gender. Sociopathy has many forms and its obvious to me that Eich is just an untrustworthy guy with a lot of bad ideas. Low-rent projects like these is just further evidence that you need a founder/leader you can trust. Its clear he's exhausted his social capital and at age 54 is far away from his…
What a disgusting personal attack. I hope you are happy of having written this. "I don't like the political views of this guy so his project must be bad."
Lets not forget how that extended to "mozilla firefox is bad until we kick out a leader of it that once donated to a cause we don't like years ago."
Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bad ideas like Javascript and Mozilla.
I think the web would be much better off without either of those. Without Javascript we would have got real programming languages on the web quicker (maybe tklets would have taken off). Without Mozilla we would have got a sensible box model quicker, a sensible way of embedding audio/video quicker, and more development on the open-source-from-the-ground-up (and, not coincidentally I think, higher quality code) KHTML s…
You could also have gotten VBScript in IE6 and more strict licensing terms for H264 and AAC streaming.
I also don't think WebKit (let alone Blink) are poster childs of "true open source community development".
Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup
#170I will repeat this one more time, because Eich seems to be missing the point.[1] I don't adblock for privacy, security, or speed. Those are just nice-side effects. I adblock because I do not want to be manipulated into buying things I do not need. I wonder what would happen if, as a society, we said, "enough, no more ads". Would it really be the capitalist apocalypse that the ad industry is trying to make us believe…
I agree ads are bad but the current state of the web is disgusting, it's barely recognizable as a conduit for any real information.
People hail the internet as a great way to find information -- if you type anything into the google search bar you're curious about, you either get wikipedia, which is clean and usually pretty great if incomplete, or clickbait ad-filled trash that gives you one sentence of content before you click "next", repeated 10 times downloading megabytes of data, tracking your habits, and grinding your machine to a halt, possibly infecting you with drive-by malware.
This feels to me like much needed incremental progress. Let's not give up on solving anything just because we can't fix everything we don't like all at once.
I clicked the HN link about ISIS fighter's salaries. Constant flash video playing in the other tab, CPU usage at 50%, obnoxious sounds pouring out of it. This should not be allowed to happen, we don't need to tolerate this kind of bad behavior on the part of websites. And even 'respectable' sites like newspapers do it.