Prototypical case of the 80/20 rule. He has implemented the happy case. But that system is nothing people realistically would want to drive their cars. What he did is impressive. But the results are not that outlandish for a talented person. 1) Hook up a computer to the CAN-Bus network of the car [1] and attach a bunch of sensor peripherals. 2) Drive around for some time and record everything to disk. 3) Implement so…
Why is the first comment on HN minimizing this truly impressive project? Of course it's not perfect, he's ONE person.
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#163> “I understand the state-of-the-art papers,” he says. “The math is simple. For the first time in my life, I’m like, ‘I know everything there is to know.’ ” Yep, he's still in his twenties.
I wish I could upvote this more. A person in their 20's knows nothing, but thinks they've outsmarted the world. It's not until your 30's that you realize how big of an idiot you were/are and how much of the world you actually understand (read: little).
Anyways, wouldn't you agree that it is better to be empathetic rather than thinking you're an idiot?
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#164> The last people with jobs will be AI programmers Geohotz makes a decent point. The way the industrial revolution reduced manual labour, and made thinkers and tinkerers much more valuable, the advent of AI (true AI, mind you, not the tiny stuff that we currently assume) might actually make us obsolete. It is a peaceful and yet terrifying thought.
Can you point to one such job where someone lost his/her job to "AI"?
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#165This the same guy that Sony wanted to put in prison for figuring out how to run code on the PS3... That stunt is also what lead to a coordinated attack against PSN that took the service down for more than a month.
Link?
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#166Prototypical case of the 80/20 rule. He has implemented the happy case. But that system is nothing people realistically would want to drive their cars. What he did is impressive. But the results are not that outlandish for a talented person. 1) Hook up a computer to the CAN-Bus network of the car [1] and attach a bunch of sensor peripherals. 2) Drive around for some time and record everything to disk. 3) Implement so…
It's pretty cool that it can be done on the cheap, though. I imagine a lot of people would be willing to pay a couple hundred dollars to retrofit their car to get autosteer alongside their cruise control feature. Small personal example: my family lives out in the suburbs. My dad works in a neighboring city. His commute is about a half hour, 20 minutes of which is a straight shot on a major highway. I'm sure he'd be w…
I am totally for a computer telling me when I'm driving dangerously because I'm distracted or tired.
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#167> “I understand the state-of-the-art papers,” he says. “The math is simple. For the first time in my life, I’m like, ‘I know everything there is to know.’ ” Yep, he's still in his twenties.
If only he knew about the Dunning Kruger effect...
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I understand where you're coming from, and even feel emotionally invested in the idea of bootstrapping, objectively speaking, it's a bad decision to stay self-funded. It is, after all, a business, and if you can accelerate your business' growth 100x by taking on some very smart outside investors and hire very smart people, why wouldn't you?
A typical woodhead's thought. "Accelerate your business's growth". Hahaha. Hard things have to be done solo because explaining to others is slowwwwwwww.
A million times this. I never really understood how hard it was to explain a (in my mind) simple new technology to the lay person until I had to do it. This is even after spending years as a technical briefer for high power executives.
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#170> The last people with jobs will be AI programmers Geohotz makes a decent point. The way the industrial revolution reduced manual labour, and made thinkers and tinkerers much more valuable, the advent of AI (true AI, mind you, not the tiny stuff that we currently assume) might actually make us obsolete. It is a peaceful and yet terrifying thought.
Didn't the opposite happen? Suddenly artisans were out of business as nobody wanted beautiful hand-made luggage, or whatever, that would last decades, but instead we'd get some engineers and maybe consults an old-school luggage guy, get some specs, and toss that data into cheap mass production and be done with it. Sure they're uglier and last only a few years, but they're cheap and plentiful. Now those artisans had to close their shops and either go work in the factory or retrain for something else.
The I.R. was great for making things fast and cheap, but it was pretty much a full frontal attack on "maker" culture that has only rebounded in certain areas fairly recently, namely computers, because you can own the "means of production" trivially, namely a computer with a compiler.
I see AI going the same way. It'll be shoddy, cost jobs, and work "just good enough." The question is is "just good enough" appropriate for 5,000lbs death machines speeding at 75mph? Think of all very serious development protocols and standards aerospace and NASA use. And that's for machines that will never have to worry about poorly painted/paved roads, kids running into the street, snow covering everything, etc. I think the AI-guided future will be far off and hit a lot of practical limits quickly and the bullish attitude behind AI is more than a little unjustifiable.