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Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#162

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We have many like Google plus, twitter, linkedin, reddit and even hacker news (catering to a specific niche). Problem here is that too many people whom we may call "less tech savvy" won't leave FB. So, in order to stay "compatible" with them, we need to keep our FB accounts active!

Do actual humans still use G+ and linkedin? I thought they were mostly just playgrounds for bot-wars.

Did you mean: twitter?

Joking aside I almost never get followed by spam accounts on g+, weekly or more on my English speaking twitter account.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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WhatsApp is not linkifying Telegram URLs, but Telegram is not even sending messages that are shared from WhatsApp. Telegram is open source, so you can see for yourself here. https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/74def22213846b1f90a26... On line 666: if (sendingText.contains("WhatsApp")) { //who needs this sent from ...? sendingText = null; }

The commit that introduced this: https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/commit/a93d2994842ef694442... > Showing 208 changed files with 5,479 additions and 1,841 deletions. It looks like they squash all their commits and just push one big diff for each update. This isn't really what I've expect from a product that advertises itself as open source security software.

That "official" repo is just a code dump.

They handle this pretty weirdly, with each commit on master being a release. There's dev branch that was meant to have actual changes (without commit comments - developer said most of his commits have useless descriptions like "bugfixes", but that's a personal preference), but seems to be dead.

This was all discussed here: https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/pull/76

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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post #109

WhatsApp is not linkifying Telegram URLs, but Telegram is not even sending messages that are shared from WhatsApp. Telegram is open source, so you can see for yourself here. https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/74def22213846b1f90a26... On line 666: if (sendingText.contains("WhatsApp")) { //who needs this sent from ...? sendingText = null; }

> but Telegram is not even sending messages that are shared from WhatsApp

This is wrong. If you follow the logic (which is admittedly difficult) you'll see they are stripping out the "sent from WhatsApp" tagline WhatsApp adds when you share a photo, etc from WhatsApp to Telegram.

You'll still get the photo, it just won't have the tagline indicating where it came from. Still a bit shady but I also dislike the "Sent from ..." taglines.

EDIT: Parent is a WhatsApp employee... now this seems like sort of a lame attempt to justify their own unethical behavior. This makes me pretty bummed.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#166
post #131
post #109

WhatsApp is not linkifying Telegram URLs, but Telegram is not even sending messages that are shared from WhatsApp. Telegram is open source, so you can see for yourself here. https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/74def22213846b1f90a26... On line 666: if (sendingText.contains("WhatsApp")) { //who needs this sent from ...? sendingText = null; }

The commit that introduced this: https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/commit/a93d2994842ef694442... > Showing 208 changed files with 5,479 additions and 1,841 deletions. It looks like they squash all their commits and just push one big diff for each update. This isn't really what I've expect from a product that advertises itself as open source security software.

Bet this is done on purpose. Also bet without checking anything that the telegram commit was prior to whatsapp block, and that it was just whatsapp retaliating.

Dirty games. I don't want to use either.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#167

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Given the credibility attributed to Signal - f.x. by Bruce Schneier and Edward Snowden - I don't understand why it's not more popular than Telegram.

No desktop client. There's a Chrome App being worked on, but that's not an ideal setup. I really don't know why they aren't focuing on this, as it's absolutely the #1 issue whenever I talk to someone about Signal. Even the Chrome App packaged in a standalone Electron-like setup would be better. edit: Apparently alpha versions of NW.js now support running Chrome Apps. This could be interesting. https://groups.google.c…

WhatsApp doesn't have a desktop client either.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#168

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Damn, those functions are longgggg. While the code seems to be organized well, it is a hell to keep track of variables, and all the flow changes.

Spaghetti. More suitable for my plate than an app. I know that Java is a terribly verbose language, but even for Java this looks over the top. This code is written with a bulldozer ! How hard is it to refactor each of those branches into separate functions or objects ? If there's no time for that, I wonder, is there enough time to figure out the security and privacy implications of this entire codebase ? Should I tru…

I don't think Telegram is something people who need security should be using, but this kind of stylistic shaming toward open-source projects is useless at best and harmful in most cases.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#169
post #109

WhatsApp is not linkifying Telegram URLs, but Telegram is not even sending messages that are shared from WhatsApp. Telegram is open source, so you can see for yourself here. https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/74def22213846b1f90a26... On line 666: if (sendingText.contains("WhatsApp")) { //who needs this sent from ...? sendingText = null; }

> but Telegram is not even sending messages that are shared from WhatsApp This is wrong. If you follow the logic (which is admittedly difficult) you'll see they are stripping out the "sent from WhatsApp" tagline WhatsApp adds when you share a photo, etc from WhatsApp to Telegram. You'll still get the photo, it just won't have the tagline indicating where it came from. Still a bit shady but I also dislike the "Sent fr…

"Sent from" is basically using my mobile messaging activities as advertising, which is why it's highly annoying to me. This is a nice internal fix.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#170

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No desktop client. There's a Chrome App being worked on, but that's not an ideal setup. I really don't know why they aren't focuing on this, as it's absolutely the #1 issue whenever I talk to someone about Signal. Even the Chrome App packaged in a standalone Electron-like setup would be better. edit: Apparently alpha versions of NW.js now support running Chrome Apps. This could be interesting. https://groups.google.c…

WhatsApp doesn't have a desktop client either.

It has a web client, but that doesn't really fit with Signal's model.
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