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Yes, CBS has this weird notion that you will pay $5.99 a month AND watch commercials that you can't skip. I get that they "think" its like this now, they get paid by the cable company for their channel (the $5.99) and they send them content with commercials (which they have sold), but the new world is NetFlix which charges monthly, but has now commercials.
People love to make the Netflix comparison, but it's generally silly. First-run, current-season material is vastly more expensive than the backlogs and cheap movies Netflix buys. You couldn't/wouldn't want to pay for how much current TV shows would cost in commercial free. Netflix works because they only buy cheap content.
New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
People love to make the Netflix comparison, but it's generally silly. First-run, current-season material is vastly more expensive than the backlogs and cheap movies Netflix buys. You couldn't/wouldn't want to pay for how much current TV shows would cost in commercial free. Netflix works because they only buy cheap content.
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Largely irrelevant. Netflix shows are at a budget Netflix controls, rather than the pricing maze of licensing content from major networks. Many more shows, often with higher budgets. And with a price premium because Netflix would be competing with their own services if Netflix was given earlier access to them.
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Largely irrelevant. Netflix shows are at a budget Netflix controls, rather than the pricing maze of licensing content from major networks. Many more shows, often with higher budgets. And with a price premium because Netflix would be competing with their own services if Netflix was given earlier access to them.
My point was that they are actually producing "First-run, current-season material". They have several shows that have gotten attention for their quality.
You say "you couldn't/wouldn't want to pay for how much current TV shows would cost in commercial free.", but a show with a 10 million dollar budget and a million viewers would cost $10, not a lot more than Google Play for current season stuff (per episode), so apparently people are paying about what it would take.
Re: New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017
#164Two Words: Starfleet Academy. It would be perfect to introduce a new crew and follow them through the Academy years. They could either do the backstories of existing characters to introduce new ones. You can combine the fun of Hogwarts-eque school, with younger drama, and still throw in lots of science and adventures.
Didn't they do Starfleet with the Bakula series?
Enterprise was set before Starfleet existed, where nobody knew what they were really doing. The idea was for the crew to make the mistakes that set the precedent for future Starfleet's regulations.
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#165Kinda worried that this will be a "web-only" series, Star Trek needs quite a good production to work well, The budget for a TNG episode was 2M$ which was pretty unheard off back then and is even considered expensive these days (GOT which is currently the most expensive running show has about 6M per episode and when you count the fact that TNG had 24-25 episodes per season the overall season budget was almost the same…
Yeah, tying this to an unproven web streaming service seems like the modern equivalent of giving a show a time slot in the middle of the night. Maybe worse, actually. The "Captain Worf" show was AFAIK never in serious consideration. Michael Dorn was a huge fan of the idea and kept proposing it everywhere he went, which is the only reason it gained as much publicity as it did, but as far as I can tell it was never tak…
>That said, Brannon Braga and Rick Berman not being involved might be a good thing...
Berman and Piller were a much better team.
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The correct viewing order for Enterprise is: watch the last episode of Season 2 and continue from there. Pretend the first two seasons never happened. Also skip the last episode.
Funny, I would have said the opposite; I hated the entire Xindi arc, which took the series from "meh" to "awful".
It's a funny arc, especially since it goes from the start of the season "torture everything that moves!" 24 style, to more classic Star Trek "are we justified in doing this" by the end of the season.
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, CBS has this weird notion that you will pay $5.99 a month AND watch commercials that you can't skip. I get that they "think" its like this now, they get paid by the cable company for their channel (the $5.99) and they send them content with commercials (which they have sold), but the new world is NetFlix which charges monthly, but has now commercials.
People love to make the Netflix comparison, but it's generally silly. First-run, current-season material is vastly more expensive than the backlogs and cheap movies Netflix buys. You couldn't/wouldn't want to pay for how much current TV shows would cost in commercial free. Netflix works because they only buy cheap content.
I think you are mistaken, the cost per episode of the shows that NetFlix has produced are on a par with anything on Network Television or Cable. What changes is the number of people with fingers in the pie. Certainly the production values of Daredevil were as good as anything on TV at the time. The combination of better CGI (lowering location costs and the costs of set dressing) and streamlining the number of people who want to make a nickel, changes the game with respect to getting new shows on to the viewer's screen.
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> I really hope that this won't be in the rebooted universe because it was well kinda meh I'm not a hardcore Star Trek fan, but was very disappointed with the new films. They're mostly generic action in space with some familiar names and Starfleet uniforms. Every little thing that made Star Trek entertaining has been stripped away. Not too surprising considering JJ Abrams told in an interview that "I would watch epis…
They're mostly generic action in space with some familiar names and Starfleet uniforms. You've just described the Wrath of Khan, considered one of the finest films in the franchise. Hell, a good number of episodes in every series in the franchise were just action in space... the Best of Both Worlds is literally just Us vs The Borg. Fans have incredibly rose tinted glasses regarding ST. For every City on the Edge of F…
How could The Drumhead remind you of Into Darkness? It is a incoherent action movie with plot points that function as an "homage" (read: shameful copy) to the original movies or they serve as a plot device, versus a courtroom drama. The only connection between them is that they both happen mostly in space and on a spaceship.
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They had the PADDs on star trek more than decades before tablets where released, yet another example of star trek being ahead of its time as for your "Utopian" comment, in the last few decades we have entered the era of plenty, the main problem encountered by startups we see here in HN is not that they are not innovative its that their products/services get drowned out in a sea of plenty Given a few hundred years and…
I'll grant them 15 years ahead of the iPad, but the show was supposed to be hundreds of years advanced. My utopian thoughts aren't really around the economics. Star trek humans are all pure of motive and work to do the right thing in all circumstances, modulo plot-necessitated black hats. I'd prefer a bit more humanity there. Humans are far more complex than the black-and-white morality plays star trek tends to be. I…
Yeah the real part of the tech that kicks me out of the show is how shitty the computers are. Having manual pilots doing anything seems absurd. In some episodes, rigging the computer up to do something is seen as something tricky and complicated.
Even in-universe, it doesn't make sense. The Holodeck is sophisticated enough to fly ships through physically real environments. (They do physics tests in the deck.) So just use whatever great AI system powering the Holodeck to do whatever advanced maneuver you need.
Also, the biggest fake tech: The communicators. The show clearly shows a person hailing another on the comm badge. BUT there's no delay in the response. "Captain to LaForge" - "LaForge here". We see that the recipient always hears the entire message. We also see there's no delay in the reply, much less than "Captain to" takes. I suppose this is easily solved by the commbadge just reading neural patterns and determining who you're gonna call. But there's no mention of that, and the badges don't seem to function that way.
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#170Kinda worried that this will be a "web-only" series, Star Trek needs quite a good production to work well, The budget for a TNG episode was 2M$ which was pretty unheard off back then and is even considered expensive these days (GOT which is currently the most expensive running show has about 6M per episode and when you count the fact that TNG had 24-25 episodes per season the overall season budget was almost the same…
> I really hope that this won't be in the rebooted universe because it was well kinda meh I'm not a hardcore Star Trek fan, but was very disappointed with the new films. They're mostly generic action in space with some familiar names and Starfleet uniforms. Every little thing that made Star Trek entertaining has been stripped away. Not too surprising considering JJ Abrams told in an interview that "I would watch epis…
Just look at Lost: JJ is incapable of developing coherent storylines.