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Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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There's a very informative XMPP XEP[1] with mobile considerations that touches on what you said (although that analogy of yours is great!). Where my problem lies is: even if I was the cleaner at Whatsapp or FB I'd be making noise about battery life, I'd do everything I could. Put another way: I struggle to understand how a company that is about mobile doesn't put being a good mobile citizen first and foremost. It's n…

> Put another way: I struggle to understand how a company that is about mobile doesn't put being a good mobile citizen first and foremost. Lack of accountability? All the complaints I hear about battery life are aimed at manufacturers, rather than the crap that we shovel on them and forget about. Facebook taking flak over their recent background audio problems was a rare exception.

That's why AT&T (of all companies) has a team dedicated to teaching app developers how to make better behaving apps (the lecture I attended was by one of their guys).

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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I had recently started building a payment network business in India and the bandwidth situation is constantly at the top of our minds. What makes the situation in India peculiar is not just the lack of 3G, but the variance within the band. It is not unusual to see "3G" connection with 15Kbs speeds. A recent study, which I am unable to dig into at this moment, showed that the aggregate bandwidth of a 3G connection in…

There is also a problem of cellular companies with fake "unlimited" plans. Basically, they offer 3G speeds only till a certain limit after which they throttle it down so much that it is barely usable, like Idea Cellular[1]. I have stopped having any mobile data on my phone and mostly prefer WiFi, since I hate paying for such a limited internet. [1]: http://www.ideacellular.com/idea/select-circle?PlanType=3Gne...

To be fair that's a pretty common tactic even here in the US. T-Mobile's cheaper "unlimited data" plans are 5GB of 3G/4G with aggressive traffic shaping afterwards that basically dings you down to 2G-ish speeds unless you're browsing at 3AM or something. Do these companies just not disclose that though?

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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I have to say, when I visited the UK from the US last fall, for the first time with a smartphone, I was amazed at how atrocious the mobile coverage was. I did my research beforehand and went with Vodafone as I expected the best coverage. From the time I activated my phone in Bath, through 3 days driving through Wales, and then up the motorway towards Edinburgh, I got GPRS and EDGE if I was lucky . I think I only occa…

I think that was merely an incorrect perception. The US had substantial 4G coverage long before Europe did. As a whole Europe has been far behind on 4G adoption until recently. The same is true about broadband speeds. It's widely believed, incorrectly so, that the US lags massively behind Europe on broadband. It's not true however, it's little more than a bogus bashing point spread around online. The US has comparabl…

Yeah; as I mentioned, my impression was from the previous decade. Quite a bit has changed since then.

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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There's a very informative XMPP XEP[1] with mobile considerations that touches on what you said (although that analogy of yours is great!). Where my problem lies is: even if I was the cleaner at Whatsapp or FB I'd be making noise about battery life, I'd do everything I could. Put another way: I struggle to understand how a company that is about mobile doesn't put being a good mobile citizen first and foremost. It's n…

> Put another way: I struggle to understand how a company that is about mobile doesn't put being a good mobile citizen first and foremost. Lack of accountability? All the complaints I hear about battery life are aimed at manufacturers, rather than the crap that we shovel on them and forget about. Facebook taking flak over their recent background audio problems was a rare exception.

> Lack of accountability?

Accountability comes with the functionality that allows you to see which apps are using battery. I recently upgraded to WP 10 and got a notification saying "some background apps are using a lot of battery," which is how I became aware of the culprit.

That notification is a very smart idea and I hope to see it at some point on Android/iPhone.

Re: Facebook '2G Tuesdays' to better understand markets like India

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We, at hike ( http://www.hike.in ), did following things: 1. gave the cheap android smartphone to use as their primary phone 2. asked employees to stay on 2G on their mobile phones It helped a us lot to improve our product for India market.

The first thing you need to fix is sending spam messages on behalf of a user to other contacts on his/her list. Here is a typical example that was automatically sent from my phone to a contact on my list without my consent: "Happy Dussehra! Join hike this weekend & get a festive bonus of Rs. 51 free talktime on joining. It's 5 times faster with 10 new features. http://hike.in" I'm thinking of reporting this to releva…

Ditto, I've installed and uninstalled hike a lot of times because of this. Guess they care more about growth at the expense of retaining normal users. Most people use whatsapp for 'timepass' and whatsapp groups. And not real communication.
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