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Re: I'm Begging for Work

#161

Dude, get your stuff together and stop playing a victim . Just.. stop! It's embarassing.

Having a daughter that you can't provide for adequately can be crushing. I'd say 'stop playing a victim' may be ok. But saying it's embarrassing is bit too much.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#162
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear where you're coming from, but if he had scrubbed all of that from this post and gone with "professional" -- "I am a self-taught web dev looking for work, I am familiar with Ruby and have recently been doing API work, I want to work remotely and can start immediately" -- would it have gotten anywhere near the front page of HN?

In my corner of the industry, all attention is not good attention.

All attention is monetizable. Maybe you become the finance guy who may have laundered money for the narcolumbians, or maybe you become the lawyer that kept the mob boss out of jail. But that's perception, not necessarily reality. In any case, you're the guy that gets to charge more because you have more clients.

I'm kind of curious, if you're willing to give a general corner of industry. I can't think of anything that doesn't have "bad boy" characters. Seems like any federal agent kind of person would attract attention from the CIA. A doctor maybe? Still seems like someone willing to write off-topic prescriptions would command more salary.

It's actually kind of tough to think of a profession that needs to be perfectly ethical, and also appear to be perfectly ethical. Aerospace designers kill test pilots. SEC agents that appear to be on the take probably get bribed more often than the squeaky clean.

Maybe there's some corner of insurance that having a reputation would endanger your employer somehow. Everything i can think of right now implies higher salary.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#163
post #155

Look this comes off as totally weak. If you're a strong developer as you claim you have no god damn problem. Tell your wife, "Look these assholes are busting my balls, I'll figure something out within a month" and hustle your ass off and you'll get a job. The market is hot as fuck right now and it is easier than ever to get a high paying job. If you have no university degree and next to no industry experience, 40k is…

I find it strange that you had kids before you were making the kind of money you need to support them

I hate comments like this one. You're assuming far too much here: that he had children when he was in the same financial position he's in now. I very much doubt that's true.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#165

I'm sorry, but brokedev did EVERYTHING WRONG here, NOT the CEO. You don't get paid based on what you think you are worth or what other employees think you should be paid. Your salary is set by market forces. And from what I read, this CEO took a chance on brokedev in the first place. He gave him a job doing something that brokedev had no background in and has been compensating him not just with salary but also with w…

But a raise to 44k? Seems unheard of...

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#166

My email is blowing up. Sorry I haven't answered anyone, I really didn't expect much of a response and this on top of everything else is overwhelming. I really can't post my personal account names publicly, that would give away the company and, as I've said previously, I do really like the dev team. My team leader has a kid as well and works his ass off, and I want to see that pay off for him when they get through so…

Don't make excuses for the CEO. He didn't forget because he's a busy guy. He straight up exploited you.

"I don't blame my boyfriend, he only beats me when I deserve it."

You learn many valuable lessons on that first job. One of them is that if they pay you cheaply initially they will almost never see you as "valuable" after that. It's just human nature. Another lesson is that the best way to get a raise is to switch jobs.

HN's patio11 has perhaps the most awesome blog post on salary negotiations. http://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/

Good luck and stay strong bro.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#167
post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First, blackmail is about information, so if anything it would be extortion. And it's not extortion because the "threat" was not wrongful; the boss is not his owner nor is he entitled to his work. The word you're looking for is haggling, and it's a common part of negotiations.

But "give me more money or I'll leave" is a bad way to go about haggling, and is likely to lead to the employee leaving. "I'm worth more than you're paying" is better, even though the employer and employee both know that "and if yu don't pay me more I'll leave" is an unspoken part of that sentence. HN regularly mentions the book "how to win friends and influence people" or talks about hacking various interpersonal pr…

Oh, for sure, it's not a good negotiation tactic, no argument there.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#169

I'm sorry, but brokedev did EVERYTHING WRONG here, NOT the CEO. You don't get paid based on what you think you are worth or what other employees think you should be paid. Your salary is set by market forces. And from what I read, this CEO took a chance on brokedev in the first place. He gave him a job doing something that brokedev had no background in and has been compensating him not just with salary but also with w…

To me, the takeaway lesson is this: Never work under unclear conditions. Make sure you have a contract that spells out the conditions you work under and the salary you will be paid. The second you start giving your labor away for free, you've lost the only leverage you have.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#170

As a manager if someone tries to blackmail me with leaving, I usually say "Then leave". Never let people blackmail you. Would I hire someone who swears and uses f* in a conversation with his boss? No. Would I hire someone who creates a blog to make his boss look bad? No. All of this with 4 kids I surely would not trust on you any responsibibility acting so irresponsible. So everyone here who wants to hire this guy, a…

More than likely his boss only wanted to give him 45k because his boss thought he could get away with only giving him 45k.

As anyone who has ever set salaries would know.

When someone comes to you for a raise, you try and sort out what the absolute minimum amount you can give them is, and go with that. It's on them to come back for more.

And once they do, you either explain why they're only worth whatever your max is, or you raise your max, or give them a list of things they need to do to raise your max and a timeline upon which you will re-evaluate them.

What you don't do is shock-and-awe fire them cause they threatened to leave.

EVERY negotiation for salary is prefaced with "if we don't agree, I'm gonna leave." Cause that's what will happen.

And yeah, I'd hire someone who writes a blog post like this. Because shit happens to people, and sometimes they write about it online.

His blog post doesn't make hiss boss look bad. His boss' actions do.

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