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Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Rooted Android works. You can swap the /etc/hosts file. Plugins such as uBlock Origin should allow for adding hosts to blocklists.

Not an option for 99% of the users.

"Root your phone to install an adblocker" isn't exactly uncommon knowledge to non-technical users.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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+1 for this. Another example would be live streaming. yy.com comes to my mind right now, it's fully flash and used by millions of users. gaming.youtube.com does Flash too on Firefox, not to mention all of the adult streaming sites. Funny how everyone is asking for Flash to just disapear, if it had never been around we'd all be screaming for a plugin that makes all the above possible.

No, we wouldn’t scream for a plugin making that possible, but we’d scream for a web standard. We already have a way to transmit two-way video live in browsers (WebRTC). It should be not to hard to use the codecs existing for that to make a one-way live streaming in browsers.

Well, WebRTC is indeed a way, but it's very far from a standard - Chrome and FF supporting it only - and has some issues. It's difficult to do multi-casting with it and eats up a ton of CPU resources. If it were scaleable and usable one of these multi-million dollar businesses would adopt it by now don't you think? I haven't seen anyone pick it up.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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I've gotten high mileage by blocking OVPs directly. I'm advocating doing this to encourage video providers to NOT enable autoplay on video. 0.0.0.0 www.autofixinfo.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 c.brightcove.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 player.theplatform.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 link.theplatform.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 ci-2862d2c8d6-68f418d2.http.atlas.cdn.yimg.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 video-img2.thedaily…

Firefox provides the "media.autoplay.enabled" setting, which can be disabled. It's a very difficult setting to implement correctly, but it works most of the time. The larger trouble is that many websites, including YouTube, expect autoplay to work and act slightly wonky when it doesn't. Edit: Have some bug links Original reporter suggesting the setting should apply to HTML5 media. Includes a very long discussion of t…

Chromium bug:

"Disable video/audio autoplay" https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=514102

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Thank you! > act slightly wonky when it doesn't. I would hope so. Autoplay videos are fraught with discrimination: "live in a country where bandwidth is expensive? Fuck you, have an autoplay video." I hope browsers move toward having autoplay as default "off" in the future.

I visited a site that was linked here recently and they not only had an autoplaying video, there was no way to pause it or stop it. The only option was to mute the video, while it still played. Horrible. That's why people use ad blockers.

My canonical example is a PC World page on killing video autoplay ... with an autoplay video:

https://plus.google.com/104092656004159577193/posts/CQAJEyHG...

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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I've gotten high mileage by blocking OVPs directly. I'm advocating doing this to encourage video providers to NOT enable autoplay on video. 0.0.0.0 www.autofixinfo.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 c.brightcove.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 player.theplatform.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 link.theplatform.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 ci-2862d2c8d6-68f418d2.http.atlas.cdn.yimg.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 video-img2.thedaily…

0.0.0.0 c.brightcove.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 player.theplatform.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 link.theplatform.com # Autoplay video Wow you really must not like video.

More to the point: disabling the elements in CSS isn't sufficient to keep video/audio from playing INVISIBLY.

Killing the source is the only option.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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> It is rather ironic half of their sites are going to break, unless they conveniently add an exception. Those sites aren't going to break, even without adding any exceptions. There's no definition of "essential" that would exclude Flash content on Google Finance. As mentioned above, the exact heuristics they're using are: "TLDR, essential content is either: 1) On the same domain as the page 2) Considered "Large" (at…

One might say that it's convenient that there's an exception for "essential" content...

And one would be wrong (at least in one's implication). There's enough sites on the Web still using Flash to deliver part of the core site that you don't need fevered conspiracy theories to explain why actual core site content wouldn't be clocked.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Flash is essential for harmony of your twosome life if you share your computer with your girlfriend who plays facebook games.

Just have her use Chrome for that. I don't have Flash installed, and I just copy and paste a URL into Chrome if some website's video player requires Flash with no HTML5 fallback.

you might also be able to get around it by using separate firefox profiles for each of you.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Flash is essential for harmony of your twosome life if you share your computer with your girlfriend who plays facebook games.

Just have her use Chrome for that. I don't have Flash installed, and I just copy and paste a URL into Chrome if some website's video player requires Flash with no HTML5 fallback.

you might also be able to get around it by using separate firefox profiles for each of you.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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No, we wouldn’t scream for a plugin making that possible, but we’d scream for a web standard. We already have a way to transmit two-way video live in browsers (WebRTC). It should be not to hard to use the codecs existing for that to make a one-way live streaming in browsers.

Well, WebRTC is indeed a way, but it's very far from a standard - Chrome and FF supporting it only - and has some issues. It's difficult to do multi-casting with it and eats up a ton of CPU resources. If it were scaleable and usable one of these multi-million dollar businesses would adopt it by now don't you think? I haven't seen anyone pick it up.

Yes, we need some additional standards to build upon it, but at least the decoders exist in Chrome, Firefox and Safari on all modern platforms.

If someone would add a small standard extension (like Microsoft originally suggested) to allow for one-way streams, we could do livestreaming over it, too.

Preferably even make it seamless – allow pointing a video element to a livestream source.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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But this problem is irrelevant, since all versions of Chrome that block flash will have this API, not?

But that's irrelevent anyway, as Chrome wouldn't block ~tiny~ flash plugins used by the clipboard transport.

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