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Re: Bernie Sanders' 404 page

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Does anyone have a transcript for this? For the folks like me, who have access issues at work.

Hi, this is senator Bernie Sanders the good news is you're at the right website- and it's a really good website. The bad news is you're at the wrong page. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and you'll find your way back home to where you should be. Thanks very much for being a part of our campaign.

He says "scoot down", not "scroll..."

Corrected:

Hi, this is senator Bernie Sanders. The good news is you're on the right website - and it's a really good website - the bad news is you're at the wrong page. Just scoot down to the bottom of the page and you'll find your way back home to where you should be. Thanks very much for being a part of our campaign.

Re: Bernie Sanders' 404 page

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I don't follow politics at all, but the more I read and hear about Bernie Sanders the more I like him. I'm sure we've got a few political experts on Hacker News so I'd love to hear if you guys think he actually has any chance of winning the presidency.

He has a chance, but not a good one. Hillary has weaknesses that can be exploited but whether or not he's the guy to do it is up in the air. He's had a pretty good surge in the polls recently.

His general election numbers are a lot worse than Hilary for the time being. Hillary has the advantage over every GOP candidate in the polls (Bush and Rubio are close) whereas Sanders only has the advantage over Trump (wouldn't that be a hilarious election?). A significant part of that is name recognition, but it's hard to say how much.

The conventional political wisdom is that he has little chance, but of course the conventional thought is only right most of the time, not all the time.

Be careful when people try to compare 2016 to Obama in 2008. Right now Hillary has double the support she did at this time in 2007. She never once broke 50% in the polls during the entire 2008 primary. She's been riding at a steady 60-65% so far this primary up until this month. With that said, Obama didn't surge ahead of her until February of 2008 so we have a long way to go.

Re: Bernie Sanders' 404 page

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Sanders is a social democrat, not a socialist. The differences are nuanced but quite important. https://spfaust.wordpress.com/2011/06/12/socialism-vs-social...

That doesn't matter to most of America. They hear "socialist", "social something", and they are going to be against it.

They certainly seem to love their Social Security.

Re: Bernie Sanders' 404 page

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Pretty nice UX, actually. Even a stereotypical grandma with no knowledge of the internet would probably have a high change of getting being told to scoot down to the nav below with a hand gesture and head back. Bet it retains users on the site better than a 404 without the video would.

Re: Bernie Sanders' 404 page

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What exactly is a "political expert"?

The distinction being made is between an expert in politics and someone who is political and an expert in something else (like tech).

I interpreted it as the distinction between someone who presents themselves as a political expert and someone who actually is.

Re: Bernie Sanders' 404 page

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As someone who was born in Australia and now lives in Amsterdam I feel like he's the most sane politician in America. I still don't understand why Americans are so insistent on keeping their "Bad for the people, good for business" policies. If you're in the 1% sure that makes sense, but for everyone else life is so much nicer with free healthcare, good vacation time, maternity leave, good public transport, proper pri…

A lot of my bulgarian friends, and others, living here in America are thinking that taxes, free schools, even police, firefighting, etc. are just things that should go away. Essentially you have to pay, and be a "share-holder" in everything. You should be on top of things everywhere, etc. etc. And someone recently posted this on his fb page: "If a businessman makes a mistake, he suffers the consequences. If a bureauc…

That's my main gripe with this inclusion of every service and charity under the sun in government. Sure, most people consider these things important, and sometimes many people could stand to benefit if it all goes well; but ultimately the problem is that everyone is expected to simultaneously have opinions on every policy in every sector at once, and come to some voting decision based on that, furthermore that their preferences should affect their entire jurisdiction or riding. This is just unrealistic.

Re: Bernie Sanders' 404 page

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> I run web crawlers for fun and profit Not my fun and profit, though.

You don't know that. He could be running a crawler that builds a service that ends up sending you very valuable traffic... Or you could be right... Not really enough info though.

There is plenty of info, namely that the service doesn't exist now, and that we can recognize and allow its crawler if it ever becomes successful. It just doesn't make sense to allow every tom, dick and harry's crawler on the promise of some future benefit. That's like delivering and opening every spam e-mail in case there is a nugget in there.

The idea of saying yes to everything is comically explored by Jim Carey in the film:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_Man_%28film%29

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> The reality is his policy isn't all that good. It's just very utopian sounding so people love it. Take his Free College For all Bill. It sounds nice doesn't it? Free College for all! This is what you get when people think with their emotions instead of logic. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well, on logic, his plan simply won't work. This isn't my logical analysis, though I agree, but the considered opinion of many economists. The plan, as put forth, is proposed to levy a .025%–.5% tax on stocks, .025%–.1% tax on bonds and .005%–.02% on derivatives with the funds going to health, public services, debt reduction, infrastructure and job creation. Ignoring the claim that it's a "Robin Hood" tax, and that R…

>What will likely happen is the same thing that happened when Sweden implemented their own financial transaction tax

I'm not going to argue for the efficacy of the tax your talking about, but the differences in Sweden and the US are too large to make a valid comparison.

The US is the largest economy in the world, a small tax that pushes people out of Swedish markets may not do the same here--US markets may be relatively more attractive.

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I don't follow politics at all, but the more I read and hear about Bernie Sanders the more I like him. I'm sure we've got a few political experts on Hacker News so I'd love to hear if you guys think he actually has any chance of winning the presidency.

As someone who was born in Australia and now lives in Amsterdam I feel like he's the most sane politician in America. I still don't understand why Americans are so insistent on keeping their "Bad for the people, good for business" policies. If you're in the 1% sure that makes sense, but for everyone else life is so much nicer with free healthcare, good vacation time, maternity leave, good public transport, proper pri…

Thomas Frank took a stab at this question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_the_Matter_with_Kansa... Worth a read.

From my perspective, there's no one answer, but I've noticed a handful of things:

* Race - Most democratic socialist countries tend to have more homogeneous populations. The U.S. has sizable African-American and Latino-American minorities, often segregated into their own neighborhoods, and that often informs how the white majority votes -- i.e. things like welfare and prison reform are viewed as handouts to people not like themselves. You might say it's comparable to how perceptions of Greek laziness inform German attitudes towards debt cancellation.

* Geography - The U.S.'s political system grants a disproportionate power to sparsely populated states (e.g. a state like Wyoming has more electoral votes per person than California, and states like Iowa and New Hampshire have a large say in how the presidential primaries turn out). This matters with respect to policies that might be considered urban-centric -- e.g. public transportation.

* Militarism - The U.S. is the only country that regularly projects force halfway around the globe, and it's super expensive. Every dollar spent on bombs is a dollar not spent on healthcare. It's a good question as to why American voters constantly favor military might, but it's not necessarily an irrational choice. Or rather, you could argue that it wasn't an irrational choice during WW2 and the Cold War, but that the development of a military-industrial complex has had lasting effects on American politics.

Re: Bernie Sanders' 404 page

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You are in the richest country in the world, and you're telling me that universal healthcare can't work because of scale? I'm shocked the average person on the street believes these lies. Universal Heathcare doesn't work in the US right now because some very powerful and rich people will be a lot less powerful and rich, and they don't want that. Open your eyes for a second and realize you are the only developed count…

Per capita, we aren't the richest country in the world. http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/06/24/what-is-the...

That's a ridiculous article. It conveniently avoids overall GDP, by which the US is the richest in the world.

In the first comparison they use GDP per capita, and in the second they use overall reserve currency? Then they use natural resources, but don't factor overall ability to exploit said resources. They're just picking metrics that don't favor the US.

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