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Re: It Just Works

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Post by [deleted] »

gress wrote: post #159
bsder wrote: post #153

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> You have found a mouse that doesn't implement the Bluetooth spec properly. That is contempt for the end user. The mice I have work perfectly with all incarnations of Windows I have (XP, 7, and 8) and OS X version 10.6 (don't have access to 10.7 and 10.8 anymore). So, which is more likely, those mice all implemented the Bluetooth spec wrong yet still managed to work, or Apple screwed up their stack?

It's entirely possible that a mouse can have a noncompliant implementation and happen to work with a relaxed implementation of the host. Perhaps Apple made their stack more compliant. If your logic were correct then all Bluetooth mice would have stopped working. They haven't.

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Re: It Just Works

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Post by baldfat »

aikah wrote: post #66
baldfat wrote: post #50

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Windows 8 has been solid (Except people don't like the GUI) Windows 10 gives you the start button back (I don't like start buttons) Linux - There really are good use cases for Linux. Your's might fit this one. Works for me and I dual boot for the odd time I need another OS (About twice a quarter) Chromebook - Limited to "normal" users workflow cases.

The whole Metro UI stunt was a mistake, It should never have happened. I'm really curious about who's to blame for that stuff, I don't think it's Sinofsky, because it's just so stupid. But at the same time there is very little difference between 7 and 8 so why would anyone want to buy yet another license ? That's the problem right here with Windows. Worse it looks like they removed some features from 7 to 10. Aside f…

I actually like it. I just hit Windows key and type. WOWZ

Re: It Just Works

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Post by geophile »

Jerry2 wrote: post #131
geophile wrote: post #14

Major Apple applications have become inscrutable and frustrating. - iTunes, Music and the iTunes store are a mess. I understood the old iTunes organization. Navigation within my music collection has become highly non-intuitive. It seems that there are multiple paradigms (long list of tracks, and another sectioned off by album), and it isn't always clear why one or the other is used. I keep forgetting how to get to th…

>If current trends continue, my beautiful Mac hardware will be nothing but a boot loader for VMWare and Linux. Your whole post is a pretty good troll but I'll bite anyway. Tell me, what do you plan on replacing iTunes and Photos with under Linux? From what I've seen, there's nothing there that even comes close to functionality of iTunes or Photos. And why even run Linux in a VM? Why not boot it? Why not sell MBP and…

Not a troll.

I don't know what I'd use instead, I gave up Linux-only years ago, and now use a Linux VM for development, Mac for everything else. Also, networking through the Mac is still simpler, at least for now. I know that Linux has some media apps, but I use them so little that I really can't compare. However, my sense is that Linux apps get better over time, and Apple apps are definitely getting worse. If current trends continue, the lines will cross.

Re: It Just Works

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Post by geophile »

gress wrote: post #59
bzudo wrote: post #43

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I totally agree with you on Photos. Everything about it is overly complicated. It should be a simple as take photo, it's on my phone, automatically added to my computer and in the cloud. Edit/delete anywhere. At least they got rid of the Camera Roll. If I do plug my iPhone into the computer, I should be able to drag and drop photos from my phone through Finder. No application needed. I miss the old iPod Classic and i…

Photos works exactly the way you seem to want it to on my devices. I take a photo and it appears on all devices. I delete a photo and it's deleted everywhere. Likewise for edits. You sound like you're talking about iPhoto. If you don't want to use photos, you can use Image Capture, which is part of OSX and gives you exactly the drag and drop functions you want.

There are two photo apps? Seriously, I'm not aware of this. I'm talking about "Photos" whose logo is eight ovals of color arranged in a circle. (The fact that this confusion is even possible is part of the problem.)

My experience is that I take a photo on my phone. It shows up in some albums that seem to have recent content but not others. The time lags are unpredictable, so I have taken to syncing manually.

Re: It Just Works

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Post by statenjason »

yellowapple wrote: post #94
statenjason wrote: post #77

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I've suggested ChromeOS to family members that use facebook, email, and limited spreadsheets. Ultimately, I backtracked when they asked about printing. Telling them they have to buy a new printer that's Cloud Print compatible is a tough sell, especially if they've purchased one within the last year. I have found that Chrome Boxes are excellent machines for demoing web products at tradeshows. Cheap, relatively hardene…

You can actually setup any machine as a Cloud Print server (i.e. publishing its own printers as Cloud Print capable printers) so long as it can run Chrome or Chromium. Even a Raspberry Pi will do the trick: http://www.howtogeek.com/169566/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-i...

You can run a bridge, but then it's another machine to set up and maintain. How are security and Chrome updates handled? A cron job? What if that fails? Suddenly the simple Chromebook is more complex.

I wouldn't mind running that hack myself, but there's no way I'd drop it on someone who couldn't debug if something went wrong.

Re: It Just Works

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Post by Fritsdehacker »

Jerry2 wrote: post #131
geophile wrote: post #14

Major Apple applications have become inscrutable and frustrating. - iTunes, Music and the iTunes store are a mess. I understood the old iTunes organization. Navigation within my music collection has become highly non-intuitive. It seems that there are multiple paradigms (long list of tracks, and another sectioned off by album), and it isn't always clear why one or the other is used. I keep forgetting how to get to th…

>If current trends continue, my beautiful Mac hardware will be nothing but a boot loader for VMWare and Linux. Your whole post is a pretty good troll but I'll bite anyway. Tell me, what do you plan on replacing iTunes and Photos with under Linux? From what I've seen, there's nothing there that even comes close to functionality of iTunes or Photos. And why even run Linux in a VM? Why not boot it? Why not sell MBP and…

I like digikam. It mirrors the internal photo albums with directories on the disk, so if you want tot browse tour photo's directly, you can still find them easily. Things like labels, comments and ratings are all stored in a little database file. You can view by album, but also by date or use custom filters.

Re: It Just Works

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Post by tdkl »

mkozlows wrote: post #48

It's certainly the case that OSX, at least, has gotten flaky as heck, but at the same time: What's the competition? While Apple was releasing Yosemite, Microsoft was going down the Windows 8 rabbit-hole, releasing the worst version of Windows since ME. And while desktop Linux has been getting better over time, I don't think anyone would say that it "Just Works" yet. The only desktop/laptop OS that actually does "Just…

> While Apple was releasing Yosemite, Microsoft was going down the Windows 8 rabbit-hole, releasing the worst version of Windows since ME. And while desktop Linux has been getting better over time, I don't think anyone would say that it "Just Works" yet.

While Ubuntu wasn't taking the Windows 8 disaster seriously and focused with wasting time on mobile.

So here we are.

Re: It Just Works

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Post by tdkl »

statenjason wrote: post #77
mkozlows wrote: post #48

It's certainly the case that OSX, at least, has gotten flaky as heck, but at the same time: What's the competition? While Apple was releasing Yosemite, Microsoft was going down the Windows 8 rabbit-hole, releasing the worst version of Windows since ME. And while desktop Linux has been getting better over time, I don't think anyone would say that it "Just Works" yet. The only desktop/laptop OS that actually does "Just…

I've suggested ChromeOS to family members that use facebook, email, and limited spreadsheets. Ultimately, I backtracked when they asked about printing. Telling them they have to buy a new printer that's Cloud Print compatible is a tough sell, especially if they've purchased one within the last year. I have found that Chrome Boxes are excellent machines for demoing web products at tradeshows. Cheap, relatively hardene…

> I have found that Chrome Boxes are excellent machines for demoing web products at tradeshows. Cheap, relatively hardened, fast enough, and sync bookmarks and settings.

Of course, it's basically a browser.

Re: It Just Works

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Post by mceachen »

yellowapple wrote: post #94
statenjason wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've suggested ChromeOS to family members that use facebook, email, and limited spreadsheets. Ultimately, I backtracked when they asked about printing. Telling them they have to buy a new printer that's Cloud Print compatible is a tough sell, especially if they've purchased one within the last year. I have found that Chrome Boxes are excellent machines for demoing web products at tradeshows. Cheap, relatively hardene…

You can actually setup any machine as a Cloud Print server (i.e. publishing its own printers as Cloud Print capable printers) so long as it can run Chrome or Chromium. Even a Raspberry Pi will do the trick: http://www.howtogeek.com/169566/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-i...

Those instructions haven't worked for almost a year, when Google stopped supporting Chromium v22.

I just updated my instructions to use Google's new open source connector: https://matthew.mceachen.us/blog/add-google-cloudprint-wifi-...

Re: It Just Works

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Post by mceachen »

statenjason wrote: post #165
yellowapple wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can actually setup any machine as a Cloud Print server (i.e. publishing its own printers as Cloud Print capable printers) so long as it can run Chrome or Chromium. Even a Raspberry Pi will do the trick: http://www.howtogeek.com/169566/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-i...

You can run a bridge, but then it's another machine to set up and maintain. How are security and Chrome updates handled? A cron job? What if that fails? Suddenly the simple Chromebook is more complex. I wouldn't mind running that hack myself, but there's no way I'd drop it on someone who couldn't debug if something went wrong.

`sudo apt-get install unattended-upgrades`
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