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Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Agreed. The 2015 Mazda3 we just bought has a horrible info/nav system that crashes and frequently stops responding. I'm guessing the actual chance of it ever being fixed at 0%. Tesla's get an automatic OTA update that would fix that kind of thing and it wouldn't be something you'd have to 'deal' with for the rest of your ownership of the vehicle.

I will never buy a vehicle with both an infotainment system and a steering wheel. Subaru lost a sale of a brand new car when the dealer sat down, turned the key, and the radio showed.... a loading bar. Fuck that. I deal with shitty software enough everywhere else in my life. I'm not going to put up with that in a 4000lb piece of metal going 70 MPH.

Has long irritated me that car audio systems have a discernible boot time, having come from the days of instant-on radios. There really is no excuse, between optimizing the boot process and starting it the moment the car starts (not like there's that much of a draw, speakers off, from the alternator).

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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The batteries in a Tesla aren't very green and sadly they are quite large. Big automakers think in volumes of millions of cars, Tesla delivers about 25K (EDIT: looks like 40K projected for this year[1]) cars a year. http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2015/05/12/tes...

Isn't it an overstatement that the batteries aren't green? Yes, there are environmental impacts from the production, but still a lot less than the environmental impacts of all the oil that would otherwise be produced and burnt to fuel the car over its lifetime, no?

Please see my other response in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9905275

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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post #92

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The batteries in a Tesla aren't very green and sadly they are quite large. Big automakers think in volumes of millions of cars, Tesla delivers about 25K (EDIT: looks like 40K projected for this year[1]) cars a year. http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2015/05/12/tes...

Isn't it an overstatement that the batteries aren't green? Yes, there are environmental impacts from the production, but still a lot less than the environmental impacts of all the oil that would otherwise be produced and burnt to fuel the car over its lifetime, no?

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Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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0-60 times are nice but I want to know what the 60-100 time is. That's what generally used for 1/4 mile estimates.

Is there any diagrams of information easily available about the couple style used between the motors and the wheel hubs? I wonder how they're done and what the limit of them is with the amount of torque they put out. In a previous life I used to build a lot of race cars and shearing axle bolts wasn't uncommon in drag applications.

It would be awesome to see them test out a full on drag tesla.

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What a fantastic read! I wonder if they get any tech or materials from SpaceX?

Well, SpaceX uses inconel. They also must have a quite good understanding of pyrotechnics, as they need to use that in a lot of places, eg. stage separation. So I'd say yes, at least on the tech transfer part.

Inconel has been around for decades. It's just a nickel alloy. Nothing terribly special about that.

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Even if not a software update, I still find Tesla's way of thinking of a car as an actual (continuously update/upgrade-able) product fascinating. Very rare for hardware. It gives an amazing user experience, "Hey restart your car and it's now got X and Y". Respect. Edit: clarifying the term "product".

It shows that they care about their product, their customers, and their brand.

Any other car company would save software updates for the latest years model and tell users that they have to purchase a new vehicle to receive the updates.

Great precedent Tesla, thank you, and I hope other car companies follow your lead.

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Note that 0 to 60 is not always what matters. I have a Porsche Macan S (small SUV) which has 0 to 60 times in the 5 second range. But the acceleration from 50 to 95 (the point that your realize you are going to fast) feels almost split second. The 2012 911 that I had had much better 0 to 60 times (in the 4's) but even with a 7 speed manual transmission didn't have the kick that the Macan has at the upper end. [1] (An…

The difference is that there aren't posted acceleration limits, only speed limits. (And more generally, speed reduces available reaction time and increases your inertia in a collision, which is why it's the sensible thing to limit.) The only limits on acceleration are the general requirements to drive safely. So 0-60 is a lot more interesting than -95, unless you're driving on the autobahn.

I would say that acceleration, forward and backward, in the 55-80 area is critical to safety.

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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0-60 times are nice but I want to know what the 60-100 time is. That's what generally used for 1/4 mile estimates. Is there any diagrams of information easily available about the couple style used between the motors and the wheel hubs? I wonder how they're done and what the limit of them is with the amount of torque they put out. In a previous life I used to build a lot of race cars and shearing axle bolts wasn't unc…

I'd imagine pretty good. It's got such a low drag coefficient, and at those speeds liquifying the tires is not as much of a problem. I'd think that the 60-100 times might be more impressive than it's 0-60 when compared to conventional cars!

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Here I am trying to imagine a vehicle with infotainment but without a steering wheel. It raises so many questions! Do you assume that we will purchase self driving cars frequently enough that the infotainment will keep pace? Do you anticipate purchasing a personal train or fighter jet? Do the handlebars on a motorcycle count as a steering wheel?

I'm trying to imagine a personal car without a steering wheel without an infotainment system. Of course such vehicles will have infotainment. I've long been thinking about what sort of content would work best. Short, serialized content released on a weekday schedule would certainly be an opportunity. Perfect watercooler fodder.

Ads, of course, for some definition of 'works best' (extreme variant: self-driving car offers to pick up what you order while you are at work) If I were an employer, I might pay my personnel to have the infotainment part replaced by educational material on their way to work.

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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On a different note: is it possible to opt out of Tesla software updates (for whatever reason)? AFAIK, this is not possible (http://my.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/same-distasteful-appe...) The two options when an update is available seem to be install now or later.
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