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Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by beagle3 »

corobo wrote: post #51
beagle3 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it is. Maybe not physically abusive, but definitely emotionally and trust-ly abusive. You think you are in a relationship with facebook, but facebook is secretly also in a relationship with all kinds of three letter agencies, state actors and advertisers - and tells them everything you told facebook.

If you know it and can prove it, it's not a secret. Advertisers definitely not secretly, you can easily see what information advertisers see at facebook.com/ads Facebook only knows what you are telling it, maybe don't announce your next bank robbery on your status update and you'll be alright

Unless you installed AdBlock[Plus], uBlock[Origin], Disconnect, Ghostery, etc - then facebook knows about every page you've ever visited that had a "like button", whether you were logged in to facebook at the time or not, whether you've pressed the "like button" or not. Did you intend to tell them that? Your browser did anyway.

Also, they know everything your friends say about you (your pictures, which they feed into their face rec engine to find you even if you weren't tagged; and the exif data in those pictures often gives location data ...). And they have a shadow profile of you even if you never created a profile yourself.

Oh, and they have a copy of your phone contacts if you use the FB app or the whatsapp app.

All of this is documented by Facebook.

Facebook knows a lot more about you than what you are explicitly telling it.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by amerkhalid »

copperx wrote: post #139
amerkhalid wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tardiness/lack of understanding of time is actually a huge problem in our culture . Most of us take it by default that other person would be at least an hour late. So we usually give an hour earlier than intended time when hosting a party or something. (We usually give actual time to our Western friends). However, this creates problem for people who actually show up on the given time. Now you have guests in the house…

Would "5PM sharp" do it?

We use "5PM sharp" or its equivalent in Urdu or Hindi but usually it doesn't mean much.

When we want people to be on time and don't want to assume that they will be late, we usually say a little more or give a reason (like we made reservations etc).

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by zem »

orthoganol wrote: post #43

I find it hard to grasp why any intelligent individual who knows what goes on with Facebook would still voluntarily remain on Facebook. "Ah but the social ostracization!", seemingly the main reason why otherwise intelligent, informed people do stay on Facebook, just doesn't hold up anymore, as too many cool, socially active 20-somethings I know or are acquainted with have moved off of Facebook, mostly in last 1-2 yea…

we can't all be cool, socially active 20-somethings :) my friends' demographic is definitely facebook-using

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by com2kid »

kosei wrote: post #4

I'm not sure what value add this serves as an opt-out solution rather than opt-in. For people who have a strong desire to show their location, sure. But what possible reason could Facebook have to make this readily accessible to anyone you chat with on an opt-out only basis?

The funny part is why Facebook sends the exact GPS coordinates. All the end users see if a rough estimate, typically the city name.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by amyjess »

ekianjo wrote: post #70

The joy of mobile apps, pulling as much permissions as possible during install, and abusing of them whenever you run them. When I see this the debate between native apps and web apps is over, and it does not end with native apps winning.

> When I see this the debate between native apps and web apps is over, and it does not end with native apps winning.

You're acting like most people care about permissions. 99% of users just click through everything.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by dublinben »

FreakyT wrote: post #93
CookieMon wrote: post #91

I use this facebook app now: http://i.imgur.com/Iyd43n6.png (Android) It's either a well written FB app, or a no-permissions jail around Facebook's own hybrid-app/mobile-site. GPS no longer turns on, and messaging works for me.

I've found that just running Facebook's mobile site in Chrome works pretty well for most purposes.

You will still be tracked on other sites you browse if you are logged into Facebook with your primary browser. That is the benefit of an app like Tinfoil for Facebook, which keeps your Facebook cookie in a sandbox.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by fuzzywalrus »

amyjess wrote: post #98
orthoganol wrote: post #43

I find it hard to grasp why any intelligent individual who knows what goes on with Facebook would still voluntarily remain on Facebook. "Ah but the social ostracization!", seemingly the main reason why otherwise intelligent, informed people do stay on Facebook, just doesn't hold up anymore, as too many cool, socially active 20-somethings I know or are acquainted with have moved off of Facebook, mostly in last 1-2 yea…

I simply don't care about privacy. I value my social life, and I value being able to actually communicate with my friends. I have made a conscious and rational decision that my social life is more valuable to me than my privacy.

That's wonderful but your choice is your choice and shouldn't invalidate how others choose to live their lives.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by LLWM »

dspillett wrote: post #134
nodata wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe not lie?

It may not have been a lie. It could simply have been a bad estimate, maybe he guessed he was about five minutes away but didn't know the area too well and was more then ten minutes away?

Then it's a good thing Facebook came through with the more accurate information.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by LLWM »

fuzzywalrus wrote: post #158
amyjess wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I simply don't care about privacy. I value my social life, and I value being able to actually communicate with my friends. I have made a conscious and rational decision that my social life is more valuable to me than my privacy.

That's wonderful but your choice is your choice and shouldn't invalidate how others choose to live their lives.

Since each app has to request your permission to access your location info, it sounds like you're happy with the status quo then.
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