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Re: Fractal Lab

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Post by tempestn »

madez wrote: post #146
oh_sigh wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could easily understand him, but yes, the narrator sounds like he's almost falling asleep, or he is recording in a room with a sleeping baby and doesn't want to wake it. I assume your comment is receiving so much resistance because apparently a lot of people find his voice "soothing", and people don't realize that a soothing voice is not necessarily the best for communicating information.

But why - for everything good in this world - would they down-vote then?

I didn't down-vote, but I expect the comment comes across as antagonistic. Objectively, he isn't whispering. Whispering means sounds are not voiced, which is not the case here. So at best this is an exaggeration. Bluntly stated as it is, it likely seems unnecessarily negative in tone to some.

Re: Fractal Lab

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Post by madez »

tempestn wrote: post #151
madez wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why - for everything good in this world - would they down-vote then?

I didn't down-vote, but I expect the comment comes across as antagonistic. Objectively, he isn't whispering. Whispering means sounds are not voiced, which is not the case here. So at best this is an exaggeration. Bluntly stated as it is, it likely seems unnecessarily negative in tone to some.

Tone is interpretation. I think we should prefer to error on the side of doubt before down-voting.

Let's assume they didn't down-vote because of interpreted tone but instead because they disagreed on the statement that the speaker whispered.

Why don't they put forth an perfectly good, objective criticism like you just did with

    Objectively, he isn't whispering. Whispering means sounds
    are not voiced, which is not the case here.
instead of down-voting?

I think down-voting should not be used for expressing disagreement.

Destructive behaviour is a good reason for down-voting.

Was his comment destructive? He used the word "whisper" non-conformant with the definition you brought. I don't think that was intentional and I think it was easy to get what he was trying to say. Other people also noted the "golf commentator voice". His behaviour was not destructive.

Down-voting is misused. I don't know how the community feels about this, but I see it as an issue.

Re: Fractal Lab

#153

Post by yellowapple »

mozumder wrote: post #102
vortico wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guys, stop reinventing the wheel. http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ Browsers already implement scrolling better than you (or any of us) ever can.

We reimplement Scroll because browsers like FireFox don't let you apply CSS for scroll bars, forcing you to have the OS's scrollbar branding (colors, style, etc..) in the middle of your page's branding. The last thing you want to do with your brand is to have someone else take it over.

So you break scrolling for a very large number of users because it looks marginally prettier? That's, like, the literal opposite of proper software design.

Reality check: not a single user gives a damn about the pretty scrollbar. They care about being able to use the site. Breaking the latter in order to achieve the former does the precise opposite of what you intend: it weakens your brand because users associate it with broken websites.

This isn't to mention that a user might very well have a system scrollbar set for usability reasons (perhaps with a more-visible - whether better contrasted or simply bigger - slider due to poor vision, or an oversized slider due to poor motor skills), which means that your prioritization of "brand" over function is effectively giving the middle finger to people with disabilities. Nice going.

Re: Fractal Lab

#154

Post by yellowapple »

Gigablah wrote: post #97
azeirah wrote: post #12

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It's using drag to scroll

Why are people downvoting this person for stating a fact?

Because it's a shitty excuse for deliberately breaking UX.

Because it's an indication that the designer believes he/she knows better than the OS programmers, the browser programmers, and the user when it comes to site ergonomics when said belief is demonstrably misguided.

Because it doesn't fix the problem.

Re: Fractal Lab

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Post by bbcbasic »

mozumder wrote: post #102
vortico wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guys, stop reinventing the wheel. http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ Browsers already implement scrolling better than you (or any of us) ever can.

We reimplement Scroll because browsers like FireFox don't let you apply CSS for scroll bars, forcing you to have the OS's scrollbar branding (colors, style, etc..) in the middle of your page's branding. The last thing you want to do with your brand is to have someone else take it over.

There will always be some element of the user experience you can't control. What about the shape of tabs, or the colour of the [X] to close the window? I think the scroll bar is in that category - it has nothing to do with branding and a browser scroll bar doesn't devalue any brand.

I just checked and perhaps the biggest brand in the world - Coca Cola - uses the bog-standard scrollbar. So if it doesn't ruin their brand, it is probably OK for you too.

Re: Fractal Lab

#156

Post by Gigablah »

yellowapple wrote: post #154
Gigablah wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are people downvoting this person for stating a fact?

Because it's a shitty excuse for deliberately breaking UX. Because it's an indication that the designer believes he/she knows better than the OS programmers, the browser programmers, and the user when it comes to site ergonomics when said belief is demonstrably misguided. Because it doesn't fix the problem.

You are not answering my question.

Why are people downvoting azeirah when azeirah isn't the designer of the site, and is not even advocating the design of the site?

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