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Re: Android Is Peeing on an Apple in Pakistan - Google Maps

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Why he choose Pakistan?

I'm guessing that it's easier to sneak bogus edits in for Pakistan than for, say, New York City.

and maybe not too obscure so that it will be seen eventually.

Re: Android Is Peeing on an Apple in Pakistan - Google Maps

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This reminds me when a the google car caught on camera a guy taking a dump just behind his van.

People managed to save the original picture: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RtfjC_R5060/UjpCpNvy3jI/AAAAAAAAAk...

But it didn't last long. Google deleted the poor guy: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.952075,-7.948871,3a,75y,28.8...

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Do you essentially have to be a Google employee to do this? I remember a few years ago when I annotated some custom maps, but no one ever saw my annotations publicly. Also my annotations were running routes and forest trails that weren't marked on maps at the time.

I submitted a fix to google maps, where they were forcing people to detour around a perfectly straight section of rural highway because it was marked as impassable. Imagine my surprise when I got an email ONE YEAR LATER saying "your revision has been accepted!"

It used to be that due to licensing and data pipeline issues refreshing the maps from origin sources was a huge effort and all fixes had to be submitted "upstream" for inclusion, which took forever.

Since Google switched to their own maps data sources and improved their software, inclusion time for fixes improved dramatically.

Re: Android Is Peeing on an Apple in Pakistan - Google Maps

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Also, never use Wikipedia for anything. Since everybody can change it, it's useless.

Well, I certainly wouldn't use it without crosschecking facts ;)

Information that's either true or completely made up is usually true. So if they say "the population of X is Y", or something like that, I'll trust them.

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Ironically, many pages of Wikipedia are useless because they're so difficult to permanently change...

Wikipedia + the talk pages is closer to an ideal encyclopedia. One of the major criticism of Wikipedia is that it preempts the possibility of having multiple encyclopedias, and thus multiple points of view. But, once you consider the talk pages, you not only restore the multiple points of view, but you also get to witness the contests between them. In that way, at least, this is better than having multiple encycloped…

Of course, another aspect of encyclopedias is that they organize a body of information; while the main page may force a structure of some kind, talk pages tend to go all over the place. But agreed that they add much needed facts and POVs beyond the one wikipedia "way" on the main page.

Re: Android Is Peeing on an Apple in Pakistan - Google Maps

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Google maps has tons of user generated content through Mapmaker. http://www.google.com/mapmaker

Yeah, it makes me sad how people actually enjoy feeding a proprietary data silo instead of providing their knowledge to everyone for free in open projects.

shrug they are making the best map better. I can see why you disagree, but it's pretty understandable.

Re: Android Is Peeing on an Apple in Pakistan - Google Maps

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Well, I certainly wouldn't use it without crosschecking facts ;)

Do you cross-check everything else? I'm sure it depends in what capacity the information is "used", right?

Something I never understood. When referencing a "real" encyclopedia you have to include the revision number thus if information changes in later revisions your citation remains intact. Wikipedia is exactly the same. When you cite Wikipedia you should include the revision number so that if it changes (as it frequently does) you haven't lost the text referenced. Could higher change frequency provide higher mis-information? Sure but a "real" encyclopedia has the same problem (maybe at a smaller scale) So in either case you have to either pay someone to fact check (like most encyclopedia companies do and could easily be done for Wikipedia) and/or do the fact check yourself. The later being the core at Wikipedia culture^[citation needed].

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Ironically, many pages of Wikipedia are useless because they're so difficult to permanently change...

Wikipedia + the talk pages is closer to an ideal encyclopedia. One of the major criticism of Wikipedia is that it preempts the possibility of having multiple encyclopedias, and thus multiple points of view. But, once you consider the talk pages, you not only restore the multiple points of view, but you also get to witness the contests between them. In that way, at least, this is better than having multiple encycloped…

Agreed, but that implies that people haven't given up on trying to get facts or information into pages that are managed nefariously. To me it feels like the talk sections have been dying off. So many things at wikipedia have become advertorials.

Re: Android Is Peeing on an Apple in Pakistan - Google Maps

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This reminds me when a the google car caught on camera a guy taking a dump just behind his van. People managed to save the original picture: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RtfjC_R5060/UjpCpNvy3jI/AAAAAAAAAk... But it didn't last long. Google deleted the poor guy: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.952075,-7.948871,3a,75y,28.8...

When you gotta go, you gotta go.

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I submitted a fix to google maps where a bus stop in my neighborhood was missing. About 6 months later I got an email saying "for technical reasons we cannot fix this." All the other apps that show bus stops have the stop. I just don't use google maps for transportation stuff. City Mapper is my goto app for that.

I wish Apple would do the obvious thing and allow 3rd party apps to send public transport data directly to the official Maps app, via a new extension point. That way, if you have the right apps, everything would always be up to date, and maybe you'd even be able to see things like real-time bus and subway markers if your public transit apps supported tracking! Google has some amazing technology, but their web-based i…

like this experiment? http://vta.amigocloud.com
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