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Announcing the Surface 3

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Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by cwyers »

sz4kerto wrote: post #85
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Off topic, but karma is useless and you should not care -- standing by your opinion is worth more than imaginary internet points.

I really wish there was a feature in HN that didn't let you delete a comment after a certain time, or maybe just after it had been up/downvoted or been replied to. It makes a lot of conversations hard to follow when people delete their comments in a fit of pique after they get downvoted, and I have to guess what the replies are in response to.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by rickyc091 »

mikeash wrote: post #118
freehunter wrote: post #89

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Is it any different from from the Macbook versus Macbook Pro? Massively different devices. The odd duck out is the Surface RT line, which seems to be abandoned now, removing that confusion.

I don't think the MacBook [Pro] is a flattering comparison. Apple is rapidly falling away from their traditional simple and obvious product lines, and the current MacBook lineup is extremely confusing to a lot of people.

Apple actually makes a good way of differentiating the products on their site (http://store.apple.com/us/mac/compare). On top of that their sales people will generally ask you what your purpose for the laptop is as to not oversell you on something you don't need.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by josefresco »

dman wrote: post #83
imaginenore wrote: post #75

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For $500 I can get a real ultrabook. Like Dell XPS 11 2560 x 1440 display 4GB RAM 128GB SSD http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/665236/Dell-XPS-11-XPS...

Not a very fair comparision since at this point that laptop is EOL'ed and its original price is 1199.

Oddly, I ventured out to find the current price of the XPS 11 and Dell doesn't even publish it. You have to call for pricing (oh how Dell has changed). The XPS 12 starts at 149 so I'm assuming the 11 is a bit lower?

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-11-9p33/pd?p=xps-11-9p33&view=p...

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by freehunter »

martijn_himself wrote: post #108

I wonder if the Atom x7 SoC combined with 4GB of memory can do a reasonable enough job at running Visual Studio 2013/2015 on the move. I expect it is a bit too much to ask.

I've run it on a dual-core Atom 1.6Ghz with 2GB of RAM on an old Thinkpad Tablet 2. It wasn't fast, but it ran. A quad-core Atom with 2GB of RAM can run Skyrim, so I would guess it would handle Visual Studio okay as long as you're not using it to compile a project the size of Windows Vista.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by nabaraz »

Why the heck would they only have 2GB Ram? I know they are trying to achieve that sweet < $500 price range but they could have just externalize the RAM modules than just soldering directly to the motherboard.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by slantyyz »

Someone1234 wrote: post #56
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> I already have an iPad that's full size and while it was very nice, I don't use it very much. The iPad is a content consumption device. The Surface is both a content creation device AND content consumption device. For example, if I want to run a IDE on an iPad then I'm ultimately using a highly interactive web-site even if that website is presented within an app. On the Surface I can run pretty much anything: Netbe…

>> On the Surface I can run pretty much anything: Netbeans, Visual Studio, Notepad++, Sublime, and so on. Heck I can install Linux if I wanted and use VIM or emacs (assuming the keyboard is connected).

This is kind of a "just because you can doesn't mean you should" thing -- at least if your main use case for the device is as a developer machine. Notepad++ and Sublime should run quite fast on an Atom, but the other two may not provide you with as solid a user experience as a Surface Pro would.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by mikeash »

ZanyProgrammer wrote: post #135
mikeash wrote: post #121

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Current iPads have 1GB of RAM. They also constantly evict background applications and even backgrounded tabs in the web browser. Switching browser tabs on iOS is always a gamble as to whether it'll reload the page or not. This makes it impossible to, for example, write a comment in one tab while referencing some material in a different one with any kind of reliability. iOS is extremely memory efficient but it comes a…

The iPad Air 2 is the first iOS device with 2 GB of RAM, I believe.

Whoops, clearly I'm a bit behind the times. Thanks to both of you for the updated info.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by emsy »

eropple wrote: post #74
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Did you consider that, instead of a hive mind or something silly like that, your post was just overreaching and insulting in its phrasing? I mean, you might recall that I jumped in on that Amazon thread when somebody was calling you a liar. And I downvoted you here, because you were extrapolating your personal feelings to the market at large and kind of being a dink about it. (And, seriously, Steve Jobs on styluses c…

It's especially bad because Apple devices are so common among creatives. I bought a Wacom Cintiq so I can draw on my Mac with a screen with a decent pen (it's easier to work with than having to look at the computer screen). But then I tried the Surface at the stores and Apple lost me as a customer. I don't need a gold watch or a ultra-thin battery pack that happens to include a computer. I want a device from creatives for creatives. Funny that it'll come from MS!
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