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Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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The organisation that reported Thepiratebay and therefore is the reason for this raid is called Rättighetsalliansen (The Alliance of Rights). The Alliance of Rights is the same organisation as The Anti Pirate Bureau but with a new name. This is what they say on their website (roughly translated): "The police raided The Pirate Bay today inside an Internet company in the Stockholm region. Rättighetsalliansen is behind…

It's a common mistake by techies to think that technical details make a difference in (Swedish) court. They don't. Technical details are rarely important in Swedish court, where the court is free to consider all evidence, even if it's obtained illegally or just is weird. So called "technical evidence" is rarely "technical" for techies. It's often just HTTP logfile print-outs or a screen shot of a file sharing program…

And that is exactly why they should never even be allowed to handle something they don't understand.

Gosh, it's like a fundamental obvious thought: don't make decisions about something you don't understand.

How to solve this is another story.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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The piratebay hosts no content and even the torrent files themselves are all served from other users. That's the technical side whether that has any legal bearing is a different question.

So being an illegal content link index (categorized magnet URI lists) is not illegal ? honest question. Isn't that why Google was forced to unlist torrents from results, otherwise they'd be in the same position as TPB.

The problem is that when you start to make things like that illegal, you are actually just banning numbers.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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Technicalities aside. They're still making money by helping people "pirate" stuff. Assuming ads on their site do actually generate revenue, and that revenue gets forwarded to them. Though I kinda expect the average piratebay user to have adblock installed.

Whether they are making money doesn't matter. Crimes aren't suddenly legal just because you do them for reasons besides profit. Otherwise the only murderers in jail would be professional assassins.

> Crimes aren't suddenly legal just because you do them for reasons besides profit.

Man, wouldn't that be a better world? But in the world we live in right now, lots and lots of actions are illegal for profit and legal otherwise.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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I disagree... Sharing has been part humanity since the dawn of the human race. It is just easier to share things with more people now.

That's a variant of "information wants to be free," which is an argument from the naturalistic fallacy. The question isn't "what's natural" or "what's easy." It's "what benefits the human condition?" Do we want a culture where artists can make careers out of creating great art, or do we want a culture where there's no money in that so it doesn't get done by anyone except trust fund kids and people who are willing to…

I think it's pretty clear from the 20th century that stronger copyright laws doesn't benefit the human condition in general.

The copyright holders did anything to limit access to copyrighted material, just to make it unnecessarily scarce. (Except in the cases where the copyright holder is the actual artist.)

One of Lessig's points is that piracy made Hollywood possible.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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In an internet-ubiquitous world, the idea of restricting the flow of data -- any data -- is basically a magical fantasy of those who understand neither the technology nor its sociology. The Pirate Bay will be back in a day or two tops. I wonder how much longer people will keep trying to put the information genie back in the bottle?

Ever heard about Demonoid?

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SJW Social Justice Warrior. A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation. A social justice warrior, or SJW, does not necessarily strongly believe all that they say, or even care about the groups they are fighting on behalf of. They typica…

You need some help.

I need some help because I copy pasted what a SJWis because someone doesn't know? I think the ones who downvoted are the ones who need help

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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Is Pirate Bay & file sharing really that big an issue among the general public in Sweden?

No, not really. The somewhat associated Pirate Party used to be a big thing here, but then the party was hijacked by a new leader who mostly seemed to care about LGBT issues. Said leader just resigned last week, and the Swedish Pirate Party is now in a reboot phase.

Anna Troberg stepped down? I can't find documentation of this.

edit: found it.

http://piratetimes.net/leading-swedish-pirates-step-down/

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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Funnily enough, for the past year I've been using TPB pretty much for finding very specific versions of Linux distros

Do they come with very specific pieces of malware too? kidding aside, I hope you check the ISO checksums.

At the height of my paranoia I installed and used an md5 checker for Windows 7, yes.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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Will be interesting to see if this will influence the Swedish parliament reelection in march.

Is Pirate Bay & file sharing really that big an issue among the general public in Sweden?

Swedes were early internet adopters, and at that time there were no other [online] means to get music and movies.

Among my friends, almost everyone use Spotify for music, and the paid-for streaming-services for movies/shows. File-sharing is too much hassle.

I still think people care about internet-freedoms though (surveillance, monitoring, etc).

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