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Re: BPG Image format

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post #112

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Considering that Lenna herself is fine with it, I'd say so. (Unless you want to deny a woman the right to permit the use of her own body for aesthetic, erotic, or academic purposes, which is the logical if ironic outcome of some schools of feminism.) The problem with the Lenna imagery isn't political correctness, it's the fact that it's a crappy scan from a magazine that always had crappy photography to begin with.

The "fine" thing would be to let Lena use photographs of herself in her own work. The problem is that women in science cannot read a paper on image processing without being reminded that it's a boy's club.

The problem is that women in science cannot read a paper on image processing without being reminded that it's a boy's club.

I find this attitude far more patronizing than any conceivable choice of test imagery in a graphics research project.

Suggest reading this before posting anything else about the delicate sensibilities of "women in science": http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/07/magazine/my-great-great-au...

Do you think any of those women would have spared a half-second's thought about this issue? Somehow, I don't think so. I think they were too busy doing science.

Re: BPG Image format

#155
post #64

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Not sure if you're trolling, but I have a spare minute... - If I post a picture of a cute kitten, does it mean I look at a cat as an object? That I will only under-appreciate all animals because I liked a photo of one? - If I post a picture of my mother or father, am I objectifying them? - What if I take a picture of a street performer who's doing some awesome thing and post it... am I reducing them to simply an obje…

This isn't just about having a picture. I'm not sure how you got that impression. It's about the context where it comes from and the repeated use of the picture in a scientific context. If you have a picture of your parents on your desk, that's great and I respect your love for your family. If you keep using a crop of your mother from her Playboy centerfold in the '70s as a test case for your algorithms, and you enco…

If you keep using a crop of your mother from her Playboy centerfold in the '70s as a test case for your algorithms, and you encourage other scientists to use the same picture, I might be a bit weirded out.

How culturally normative of you.

Re: BPG Image format

#156
post #148

The big story here is this introduces a new image file format without requiring you to upgrade a browser or download a plugin . Those aren't PNGs of representative images you're looking at - that's BPG decoding happening in your browser. So we don't like HVEC due to patent worries? Fine, we can swap in another format and use the same technique. We don't have an I-frame format for Daala that's finalized yet? Fine, we…

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Re: BPG Image format

#157
post #117

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It does not "beg" any questions. It is still a question of context. Sexualizing women has nothing to do with image processing research.

>It does not "beg" any questions. Yes it does. geofft wants to imply that it is somehow equivalent of using a nude of one's own mother, which is absurd. >Sexualizing women has nothing to do with ... Tell me why you think this one[1] is okay, as opposed to the Lena image; and what it has to do with whatever it is you do. [1] http://jeremykun.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/gala-dali.jpg?w...

Sure. This picture was painted by Dali, inspired by a Scientific American article about the minimum number of pixels needed to recognize an image. He was making an artistic statement that has a direct connection to Fourier analysis (and if you read the context article that image came from you might know this). This is a painting whose context is "fine art" (i.e. you can have tasteful nudity). That is a different context from pornography, whose purpose is sexual.

You clearly do not understand how the context of an image matters in interpreting it.

Re: BPG Image format

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post #112

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The "fine" thing would be to let Lena use photographs of herself in her own work. The problem is that women in science cannot read a paper on image processing without being reminded that it's a boy's club.

The problem is that women in science cannot read a paper on image processing without being reminded that it's a boy's club. I find this attitude far more patronizing than any conceivable choice of test imagery in a graphics research project. Suggest reading this before posting anything else about the delicate sensibilities of "women in science": http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/07/magazine/my-great-great-au... Do you t…

I'm sure they do, because I can point to them speaking up about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna#Controversy

I'm not saying all women are crippled by it, because they have to deal with such nonsense while walking down the street every day. But can't we as scientists strive to improve the status quo?

Re: BPG Image format

#160
post #123

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Fractal compression is a scam. The "resolution independent" part especially.

http://www.ams.org/notices/199606/barnsley.pdf

That definitely looks like a scam ...

Figure 2 absolutely does not contain the level of detail reproduced in the--supposedly--fractal compressed versions in figure 3 and 4.

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