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Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Why are people comparing Navdy with not using a cellphone at all. That isn't the point of this device. People use their cellphones while driving, and are going to continue unless the government can physically prevent it all the time. This device isn't trying to prevent all types of distracted driving that cellphones create, but to minimize it. As a whole, the public is going to not only use cellphones to the level th…

"People use their cellphones while driving" No, some people do. It's illegal and I'm all for increasing policing and penalties to stop them.

> No, some people do.

He did not say all people. He said "people". You are saying the same thing he did, except you said "no" in front of it. My own anecdotal evidence is that I don't know a single person that won't use their cellphone while driving.

> It's illegal and I'm all for increasing policing and penalties to stop them.

That's a blanket statement that isn't true. Certain activities on the cell may be illegal in certain states, but hands-free talking generally isn't—as far as I know isn't illegal in mine.

I use my cell phone for maps and music while I drive, and will continue to do so even if people like you get laws passed to make it illegal. As far as I'm concerned, the cat is out of that particular bag (and it's undeniably safer than maps and music in the days before cell phones).

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

#152

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I totally agree with your comments. Before Navdy, the stuff that distracts you are out of your focus. With Navdy, it bring the distractions right in your view, making it easier and faster to be distracted.

To be fair, they do claim you can disable alerts on a per-application basis. Plus, given that many drivers are going to check their messages anyway, I'd say a HUD is saf er than looking at your phone

Plus, given that many drivers are going to check their messages anyway, I'd say a HUD is safer than looking at your phone

People die because other people drive while distracted. There are no excuses for being severely and unnecessarily distracted while behind the wheel just so you can check your messages. It really is as simple as that.

The answer isn't letting people who think it's OK to drive like this be a bit less distracted with a HUD. The answer is imposing penalties equivalent to what they'd get if, say, they fired a loaded gun in a random direction from the middle of a crowded shopping mall.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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In the future I'd like to be able to look down at my phone/tablet/book/food/etc while my car drives me to my destination. This is not the future.

This seems very similar to things like Coin[1] where it's a solution for now, rather than the future.

[1]: https://onlycoin.com

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

#155
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This argument fails repeated testing. It turns out that human-human conversation involves both parties paying attention to the environment and co-operating to insert pauses and situational awareness. In essence, h-h communication in a car requires much less cognitive load on the driver because a large part of it becomes shared. We've all seen this fail at times too. That's when the driver has to tell the passenger to…

In fact it's addressed right below the linked section, but it contradicts your stance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_and_driving_safet... Quoting: > In contrast, the University of Illinois meta-analysis concluded that passenger conversations were just as costly to driving performance as cell phone ones. > AAA ranks passengers as the third most reported cause of distraction-related accidents at 11 percent…

May I recommend that instead of relying on someone's third-hand interpretation in Wikipedia, you prefer to refer to the underlying source, or better yet since that source is itself only a meta-analysis in this case, to the original primary research?

For example, what the meta-analysis paper actually says is:

"From our analyses, in-vehicle (passenger) conversations were just as costly to driving performance as were remote (cell phone) conversations. This suggests that passengers, at least in those studies explored here, did not moderate their conversation in such a way as to alleviate the costs (as compared with remote conversers). These results must be interpreted with caution, however, given that relatively few studies directly examined the impact of passenger conversations."

If you look at their table of the original research they are working from, you can clearly see why they included that cautionary note.

Alternatively, a few minutes with Google Scholar will get you numerous primary sources that show a clear distinction between the effects of remote conversation and the effects of passenger interaction. Some studies suggest that passengers who don't moderate their conversation still have a negative effect, but hardly anyone has data that implies an effect as bad as cell phone conversations. Other studies found evidence that passengers can also be a benefit, for example warning an insufficiently attentive driver of a hazard they had failed to recognise themselves.

There is unfortunately not very much research into more specific conditions when passengers may prove to be a particularly serious distraction. For example, we know that young and inexperienced drivers are disproportionately likely to have accidents, but we don't yet know for sure whether passengers of a similar age are disproportionately likely to be a significant distraction. There is some evidence to suggest that this is at least a plausible theory, and in some places young and inexperienced drivers are now limited in the passengers they can take when they first start driving unsupervised.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

#156

Why are people comparing Navdy with not using a cellphone at all. That isn't the point of this device. People use their cellphones while driving, and are going to continue unless the government can physically prevent it all the time. This device isn't trying to prevent all types of distracted driving that cellphones create, but to minimize it. As a whole, the public is going to not only use cellphones to the level th…

"People use their cellphones while driving" No, some people do. It's illegal and I'm all for increasing policing and penalties to stop them.

Talking on a cell phone while driving is not illegal in some states (I'd venture to guess most). Also, in some states where it is banned, it's still allowed for people who drive as part of their job. When I was delivering pizza, something like this would have been a gamechanger.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

#157

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Awesome project! Did you create an actual HUD (projector) or just use the reflection off the windshield at night? (I emailed you as well)

In the video they say that they used 40/60 beamsplitter glass. It reflects the tablet directly.

He was asking the commenter a question about his project not Navdy.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Using a HUD to read/write texts/tweets? It seems like the creators missed all the studies about the dangers of distracted driving. And pilots use HUD's so this must be safe? That would potentially hold water, if the pilots were using huds to tweet, text, and select music while landing... instead they're using huds to display important information... I like the technology, I just don't like the suggested use cases for…

Precisely. I've long wanted to build a HUD that could project on all the glass surfaces of my car. If I were building a HUD, it should be giving me a "heads up." The windshield would have navigational aids, but any surface in the car could be used to display hazards! I want my car to identify if a pedestrian is present (highlighted in yellow) or if they appear to be crossing my heading (highlighted in red.) I want my…

But I already have all that information. And I dont have any HUD or other displays anywhere.

I can see the speed of traffic Im merging into, pedestrians, change of speed/flow of traffic ahead of me, and if a pedestrian appears to be willing to cross infront of me.

Without even having to think about it, I can just notice when there is emergency vehicles around or construction vehicles or any other danger-sign on the road. I can be talking to my passangers, listening to music or day-dreaming but would not miss any signs - its in the automated system already.

For me, having those kind of HUD stuff would just be even more redundant information to learn to automatically filter out/make judgements on.

In fact, I think such a heads-up-displays everywhere with color information, would just confuse drivers more and lead to more accidents - now you not only have to keep eyes on the road/let brain handle the information and do its thing - but also interpret and learn the various displays and what they mean, but also to confirm what they display to the sorrounding. More info to process - more error prone decisions.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

#160

Why are people comparing Navdy with not using a cellphone at all. That isn't the point of this device. People use their cellphones while driving, and are going to continue unless the government can physically prevent it all the time. This device isn't trying to prevent all types of distracted driving that cellphones create, but to minimize it. As a whole, the public is going to not only use cellphones to the level th…

Your post is impossible to follow. You jump to point to point without rhyme or reason many of which aren't really justified (even on a casual basis). Here's just a few of the points you try to make: - You don't think cellphone-driving laws work unless there is a cop literally with you 24/7. - You think this device minimizes distracted driving (?) - You think cellphone usage while driving is going to increase regardle…

Your last bullet encapsulates the lack of critical thought perfectly.

A horrifically bad solution does not become good simply because the problem it solves is "inevitable."

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