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A detailed exposé on how the market is rigged from a data-centric approach

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How do you pick the timeframe? Seconds are still too fast for humans. Minutes would be too fast for people who are not professional traders, hours would be too fast for people who can't be near a computer all day. There is always a locality advantage in the market, this has been true as long as there have been markets, and it will be true forever. Why do we as market participants care? The other problem with your sce…

> The other problem with your scenario is that you make market making more risky. The problem with the current scenario is that it makes market making more expensive, as it requires a lot of technological investment into the microsecond arms race. This means the market makers must pull in more revenue from their trading to cover these expenses, before they even get to thinking about making a profit. This cascades to…

The claim that market makers pass costs on to end users is only true if they have pricing power. In reality, on-exchange liquidity provision is basically the kind of perfect competition that only exists in economics textbooks. Market makers are selling a commodity product (you don't care or control who you trade stocks with) in a market where buyers are purely sensitive to price (tightest market always wins and is enforced by exchange matching rules).

So what actually ends up happening in a market with multiple competitive market makers? To make money, a market maker needs to trade a lot of volume. The only way to trade a lot of volume is to put up the most aggressive (worse for the market maker, better for end users) prices at any time. Market makers can only do this by charging a smaller spread than their competitors. They can only charge a smaller spread by either reducing their margins or getting smarter at deciding when to be in or out of the market, usually a combination of both. The end result is extremely tight markets that react to information very quickly (i.e. cheap to trade and very efficient).

Competition keeps markets honest. If you had one very fast guy, he would clean up, but when you have a dozen guys who are roughly equally fast, they all compete one another down to barely making profit above their cost of doing business. Only the most efficient can survive. If anything, we want more HFT by removing barriers to entry rather than creating a lot of regulations that would ironically help incumbents by killing off weaker competitors.

Re: A detailed exposé on how the market is rigged from a data-centric approach

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If you read "Flash Boys" by Michael Lewis, he describes the creation of the IEX, which attempts to do exactly this. RBC created a tool to try and synchronize order flow, which worked for a time. Part of the solution that IEX uses is to put large spools of fiber-optic line in between the servers to delay order flow long enough to negate the HFT systems.

Also if you read "Flash Boys" you will realize that the guys that started IEX previously worked for brokers whose central job is making sure orders get executed well and they were terrible at it. They literally did not understand basic market fundamentals that they were getting paid millions of dollars to understand. I'm not convinced I want these same guys routing my orders. As anyone with a lick of understanding in…

>As anyone with a lick of understanding in technology has to ask, why the hell do they need big spools of fiber to negate HFT systems? Can't they implement low latency time stamping much cheaper?

It's actually a quite elegant solution, and most likely cheapest: it gives you very precise, reliable, repeatable, order-preserving delay for one-time installation cost and you don't have to pay to developers, wait for software to be written and debugged and don't have to buy additional hardware!

Re: A detailed exposé on how the market is rigged from a data-centric approach

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That's wrong. It's more like: "Fresh Apples here! Only the best apples for 2 dollars!" - "I would like every single apple you have, please. Also I'm buying all the apples from the guy across the street too." - "Thatll be 2.05 each, sir." - "What? I thought you just said 2?" - "Demand has just gone up."

"Fresh Apples here! Only the best apples for 2 dollars!" "I would like 1000 apples, please." "Sir, I only have 600 apples in the shop. I can give you those now, and I'll ask the guy across the street if he has any." "How much will that cost?" "I think he's also selling them at 2 dollars each. Let me just look - oh, nope, he's seen us talking and changed his sign. Well. Have these 600 at the quoted price, and if you w…

Indeed this is even better.
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