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Facebook Slingshot – A new way to share photos and videos

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Re: Facebook Slingshot – A new way to share photos and videos

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Post by alaoiigha »

alttab wrote: post #132
alaoiigha wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say Snapchat is the comparison, and yes, you literally could. It's almost as if people and companies create products to compete with other products. Multiple types of bread, what madness is this. I could literally use the same type of bread from this other company! > "Neat" does not justify the money or engineering talent invested in it. If I was a Facebook share holder, I'd be confused as all hell. lol i wasn't…

So I won't knock on you enjoying it, because thats subjective. How do you use it though, you'll need to eventually sell all your facebook friends to use it as well since you like it so much. You'll have to convince them why forcing to send you a picture to see what you send them is better for them. For this reason, I see it literally as an uphill battle for it to gain traction. Hoping that you are right, and that Fac…

> How do you use it though, you'll need to eventually sell all your facebook friends to use it as well since you like it so much. You'll have to convince them why forcing to send you a picture to see what you send them is better for them.

I disagree on me personally, but that is because i try to keep my social circle, especially those who i'd use this app with, very small. I try to keep my FB friends below 10 (though, i have been debating letting everyone in, but only listening/posting to ~10).

This is abnormal for the common person today.

Fwiw, the only problem i have with this App, is that it destroys natural image conversation. Now that we've (friend s and i) used it heavily for a day (we'll see if i think the same after a week), we still enjoy it but we cannot converse beyond 1 reaction. This feels quite limited, and makes the "idle-chat" style picture convo less supported.

Re: Facebook Slingshot – A new way to share photos and videos

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Post by otterley »

outside1234 wrote: post #55
songzme wrote: post #35

This app brings to mind an excerpt for Larry Page - The untold Story: ... Up front, an executive pitched a new product that helped users find the right offline store to do their shopping. The executive was well into his pitch when, suddenly, Page interrupted him. “No,” Page said emphatically. “We don’t do this.” The room grew quiet. “We build products that leverage technology to solve huge problems for hundreds of mi…

Also called the "toothbrush rule". Larry wouldn't allow a product that you didn't use twice a day to be developed at Google.

But Slingshot might well qualify under the toothbrush rule. Never underestimate the bounds of people's vanity.

Re: Facebook Slingshot – A new way to share photos and videos

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Post by ed209 »

dargex wrote: post #149
ed209 wrote: post #47

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Did you know there are over 150 varieties of Finches? Each slightly different, maybe color difference or a larger beak or bigger wingspan. They came about by iterating on the Finches that came before. In fact, that's how most advancements come about in nature, poetry, art, and yes, even technology. We take what came before an iterate on it. I'm trying to think of a giant leap that came out of nowhere, but I can't. Ph…

Nature is brutal and peoples' complaints over the app are a muted form of natural selection. Also, did ed209 honestly claim artists churn out iterations of what came before, just like facebook churning out cloneware?

> complaints over the app are a muted form of natural selection.

that's not true. we uninstall and don't use the app. Remember Facebook •Camera? That has exited the gene pool.

> Also, did ed209 honestly claim artists churn out iterations of what came before, just like facebook churning out cloneware?

Yes. Just search for art movements, whether from 14th century Renaissance to 1950's pop art. Tell me artists were not "influenced" by other art being produced at the time.

Re: Facebook Slingshot – A new way to share photos and videos

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Post by dargex »

ed209 wrote: post #153
dargex wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nature is brutal and peoples' complaints over the app are a muted form of natural selection. Also, did ed209 honestly claim artists churn out iterations of what came before, just like facebook churning out cloneware?

> complaints over the app are a muted form of natural selection. that's not true. we uninstall and don't use the app. Remember Facebook •Camera? That has exited the gene pool. > Also, did ed209 honestly claim artists churn out iterations of what came before, just like facebook churning out cloneware? Yes. Just search for art movements, whether from 14th century Renaissance to 1950's pop art. Tell me artists were not…

>that's not true. we uninstall and don't use the app. Remember Facebook •Camera? That has exited the gene pool.

We also voice our opinions publicly, and there's nothing wrong with that. Most app stores have a review section specifically for this purpose, but one shouldn't let that limit their forums for speech.

>Yes. Just search for art movements, whether from 14th century Renaissance to 1950's pop art. Tell me artists were not "influenced" by other art being produced at the time.

Even the great artists who steal all the best stuff end up creating something new and never seen before.

Re: Facebook Slingshot – A new way to share photos and videos

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Post by songzme »

Just tried slingshot for a day and absolutely hate it. Never thought facebook is capable of fart apps. "... some genius decided to include a feature that requires you to message back to unlock slings that are sent to you. Really? What am I supposed to send them when I don't even know what their sling is about? This results in me sending an unlocker photo just to unlock an unlocker sling sent to me and the vicious cycle continues..."

What results is a cycle of useless pictures taken just to unlock pictures. wtf?

I'd suggest downloading it and playing with it just to learn from this uniquely frustrating experience.

Re: Facebook Slingshot – A new way to share photos and videos

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Post by songzme »

sytelus wrote: post #95
songzme wrote: post #35

This app brings to mind an excerpt for Larry Page - The untold Story: ... Up front, an executive pitched a new product that helped users find the right offline store to do their shopping. The executive was well into his pitch when, suddenly, Page interrupted him. “No,” Page said emphatically. “We don’t do this.” The room grew quiet. “We build products that leverage technology to solve huge problems for hundreds of mi…

This is a typical example of survivor bias. You are overly emphasizing successful people's view as generalized truth. The fact is, these are the same leaders who also missed out boat on entire social revolution. They are not often not right but it hurts them lot less because they have already amassed huge momentum. For hackers, makers, creators, hobbyists - I don't think you should put any artificial restrictions on…

I wholehearted agree with you, "I don't think you should put any artificial restrictions on what you should work on"

I'm just disappointed with Facebook. They have so much resources and the ability to make such a difference but they chose to make this crap.

Re: Facebook Slingshot – A new way to share photos and videos

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Post by fuire8 »

jameshart wrote: post #30

We live in the age of wonders. The internet and mobile devices create endless possibilities for people to communicate, learn and interact. And at Facebook, a company which can, if it chooses, pick from among the brightest engineering minds and focus their efforts on any problem it chooses, the power to concentrate years of programming knowledge on the capabilities afforded to us by this astonishing bounty of personal…

"We live in the age of wonders" is that so ?

Re: Facebook Slingshot – A new way to share photos and videos

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Post by fuire8 »

jameshart wrote: post #30

We live in the age of wonders. The internet and mobile devices create endless possibilities for people to communicate, learn and interact. And at Facebook, a company which can, if it chooses, pick from among the brightest engineering minds and focus their efforts on any problem it chooses, the power to concentrate years of programming knowledge on the capabilities afforded to us by this astonishing bounty of personal…

"We live in the age of wonders" is that so ?

Re: Facebook Slingshot – A new way to share photos and videos

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Post by gfodor »

jvagner wrote: post #109
gfodor wrote: post #79

It's obvious this is just another Facebook experiment to see if it sticks. To criticize the idea head on is dumb, I'm sure the people who built it have their own skepticism as well. Probably easy to build and launch, so they did. Criticize their methods (like focusing on photo/video apps in general, or on mass experimentation), not the specifics of experiments themselves if you want to be taken seriously. The least p…

Aww, c'mon. You're trying to promote a playfulness here that isn't justifiable in the present situation. How many stupid things can Facebook release before people stop paying attention to anything that Facebook releases? You're also arguing, it seems, that there's now a condition in the app marketplace where people building things have no real understanding of what will play in the marketplace, so developers shouldn'…

I'm arguing that the depth of consideration should be inversely proportional to the ease with which one can run a test. Certainly the people at Facebook had some intuition about if this new dynamic would be appealing to people. But the reality is the success of these types of apps are hard to predict based upon your own personal preferences, when you look at the way various apps split along demographic lines. This type of app is trivial for Facebook to build at this point, it's really just a matter of opportunity cost for them, so it seems likely they will continue to try various small tweaks to interaction models in order to find successes in this domain.

And like I said, you can criticize the idea that they should be building these types of things in the first place. But people saying that this particular incarnation will never work because they don't "get" it haven't been paying attention the last 5 years in the mobile space, and those who lament the fact that all this talent was put into this app are probably overestimating the effort for a company like Facebook to produce something like this at this point.

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