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Re: Amazon Prime Music

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Post by psychometry »

samolang wrote: post #104
swombat wrote: post #64

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You're not alone. My blood congeals at the idea that access to the music I love is somehow restricted by a third party with a different agenda to mine. I have zero interest in a third party streaming service. Now, if I could install my very own self-hosted Spotify-alike, stick all my music on there, and stream it to my devices with a smooth wireless connection that works even when I'm in tunnels, then you've got me a…

Both Amazon and Google let you import your existing libraries and stream them.

What is the point of uploading music I own to a cloud service so I can stream it later, wasting my precious mobile data? My phone has gigabytes of storage and I can transfer thousands of tracks in seconds.

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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Post by samolang »

psychometry wrote: post #151
samolang wrote: post #104

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Both Amazon and Google let you import your existing libraries and stream them.

What is the point of uploading music I own to a cloud service so I can stream it later, wasting my precious mobile data? My phone has gigabytes of storage and I can transfer thousands of tracks in seconds.

Convenience. I have like 150 gigabytes of music. I can't put all of that on my phone and even if I just put a subset on there I'd have to re-load it every time I get a new phone. What if I want to play the music out of whatever laptop or tablet I happen to be using at the time? Also, I don't have to worry about my hard drive dying. Also, Google lets you save the music to your phone so you don't have to use mobile data.

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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Post by DanielStraight »

psychometry wrote: post #150
DanielStraight wrote: post #103

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Casual consumers? Before Spotify, I basically only listened to music in my car, and then I just stuck the top 40 station on and dealt with the crap. Now, in 3 years on Spotify, I've listened to more than 10k distinct songs on 2.5k albums from 2k artists. I've gone from US top 40 to music from all around the world. In the last month, I have listened to artists from the US, Germany, Western Sahara, Ivory Coast, Mali, S…

Music blogs, last.fm, live music, automated recommendations from wherever you buy music, etc. Discovering new music has never been an issue for people who don't use Spotify.

Except how do you decide whether it's worth spending the money to buy it when you can't listen to it fully until you buy it?

Re: Amazon Prime Music

#154

Post by kolev »

justincormack wrote: post #89
kolev wrote: post #59

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Isn't the classical also cheaper to license?

Not sure. The consumers of it are generally wealthier so it has always been a "premium" market, even if smaller. The fact that much of it is out of copyright doesnt mean you dont have to pay performance rights...

Makes sense. I also find myself primarily listening to classical music, and, as a side note, I hate that apps like Shazam, Google, and SoundHound can't recognize most of it.

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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Post by cwyers »

talmand wrote: post #123
gamegoblin wrote: post #22

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I just discovered that as well. And it just so happens that 3 of the songs by the artist I wanted were all non-prime. Very lame.

Dead on arrival? How? Why is there the expectation that every song in an album would be free under Prime? "This free music is lame because it's not the music I wanted for free?" Do you tell stores their free samples suck because you wanted a free sample of a different product?

You and I have exceedingly different definitions of "free." It's not even ad-sponsored free like basic Spotify is, it's a full-on paid product that comes bundled with other paid products. So the price of Amazon Prime (which just went up) reflects this half-baked music streaming service. I'm paying for this, as is everyone else posting complaints about it (because only paid Prime members can access it).

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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Post by swombat »

err4nt wrote: post #97
stephenc_c_ wrote: post #80

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You can do that with Subsonic: http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp

skip Subsonic and migrate to Plex. I do have a paid subscription because I love the software so much, but here's why it's so great: The media server can run on Windows, Mac, and Linux, so I have it set up on my web server. You can then use a client on Windows, Mac, iOS, or the web browser to stream music, photos, and movies. You can also share your library with other Plex users, so if you have libraries that are alwa…

How's the caching on the iPhone? Can I stick a bunch of FLACs and others on Plex, then open them with the (paid) Plex Pass subscription client, then cache them on there, and play them wherever?

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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Post by kolev »

tootie wrote: post #130
kolev wrote: post #58

Limited selection like Prime Instant Video, but at least it's available on Android (although the app doesn't seem to support the new service yet and is butt-ugly). On a side note, I don't really get why Amazon is twisting our arms and doesn't offer Instant Video on Android outside of Google TV and Kindle Fire. I care less about their free videos, but I've purchased digital content and I'm not able to watch it on my A…

This is most interesting for me. They are deliberately withholding an android app for streaming video, but they are dipping their toes in with streaming music.

They just updated their Amazon Music app in the Play Store. It's a complete revamp!

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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Post by talmand »

jamiesonbecker wrote: post #133
talmand wrote: post #123

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Dead on arrival? How? Why is there the expectation that every song in an album would be free under Prime? "This free music is lame because it's not the music I wanted for free?" Do you tell stores their free samples suck because you wanted a free sample of a different product?

Right! It's a FREE!! music sampling service that costs $100/year where you can hear a few selected songs in their entirety, but only through a spammy web app. AWESOME!

I guess you would be right if you were paying $100 a year just for the music.

But, in a way, you are right; it isn't free. Just heavily subsidized is probably a better word for it.

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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Post by talmand »

VikingCoder wrote: post #128
talmand wrote: post #123

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Dead on arrival? How? Why is there the expectation that every song in an album would be free under Prime? "This free music is lame because it's not the music I wanted for free?" Do you tell stores their free samples suck because you wanted a free sample of a different product?

I don't know how many people are like me, but the atomic unit of listening to music for me is an ALBUM, not a SONG. So, for people like me, to try to explain to people like you... Why is there the expectation that every second in a song would be free under Prime?

You shouldn't attempt to put people into groups before you know which groups people would belong to.

Sure, I understand, there are many albums that I enjoy in the entirety and not so much with individual songs.

You can always buy the albums.

As for you question, such a thing already exists; they are called samples.

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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Post by talmand »

cwyers wrote: post #155
talmand wrote: post #123

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Dead on arrival? How? Why is there the expectation that every song in an album would be free under Prime? "This free music is lame because it's not the music I wanted for free?" Do you tell stores their free samples suck because you wanted a free sample of a different product?

You and I have exceedingly different definitions of "free." It's not even ad-sponsored free like basic Spotify is, it's a full-on paid product that comes bundled with other paid products. So the price of Amazon Prime (which just went up) reflects this half-baked music streaming service. I'm paying for this, as is everyone else posting complaints about it (because only paid Prime members can access it).

Good point, I should change the question to why is there an expectation that every song be accessible to Prime members without an extra charge?

I just don't understand the negativity towards this service because it isn't exactly what some people want. I see it as a bonus to a service I already gladly pay for. If it doesn't have every song that I would want, so what? I have access to more stuff then I did before at the same cost.

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