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Post by ceejayoz »

j46a1 wrote: post #144
PaulHoule wrote: post #47

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I think more seriously https://www.gittip.com/noirin/ has stuff on her profile that directly deprecates her husband. I don't anything about this case, but I'd say in general it makes me uncomfortable that somebody is bringing up a personal conflict on a platform like this.

He was exonerated and is suing her for libel and assault. www.scribd.com/doc/170684165/Michael-Schwern-Exonerated

Prosecutors declining to charge isn't the same as exoneration, as much as a defense lawyer might want to convince you of such.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by janl »

whit537 wrote: post #122
joaren wrote: post #113

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I never liked Gittip because of how it advertises its top earners and givers... it stops being about rewarding good work and starts to become a game of who can score the most validation points and use them for political gain. Yelling on Twitter and demonizing men for existing is not "promoting empathy and equality". Begging for legal money for your civil lawsuit is not "sustainable crowd funding" (hint: what is she b…

Thanks for the feedback! I've added a +1 w/ your comment re: the leaderboards to https://github.com/gittip/www.gittip.com/issues/1074 .

@whit537 big fan of Gittip, but inviting misogynists onto your platform is not the right thing to do.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by j46a1 »

matdes wrote: post #150
pekk wrote: post #98

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No, that wasn't a jab at feminism in tech! Feminism is great and there are some big problems to address in tech. But paying people to stir up heated conflicts and throw Tumblr-style tantrums isn't fixing anything, it is actually misrepresenting women in tech and doing harm to their cause.

http://www.derailingfordummies.com/derail-using-anger/ c.f. "You are hurting your cause by being angry" try to be less of a trope.

STFU Hendrix. Go back to your hen party you white knighting feminist bitch of a man.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by j46a1 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #151
j46a1 wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was exonerated and is suing her for libel and assault. www.scribd.com/doc/170684165/Michael-Schwern-Exonerated

Prosecutors declining to charge isn't the same as exoneration, as much as a defense lawyer might want to convince you of such.

Prosecutors are very aggressive. Declining to charge means severe lack of evidence. Basically she's a liar.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

#155

Post by betamatt »

pekk wrote: post #12

Gittip is a nice idea. But sadly, it has become a place for certain people to receive hefty monthly paychecks from anonymous patrons in exchange for incredibly aggressive and toxic trolling. Despite original intentions, this is not making an ecosystem of love and gratitude. So if its creator isn't even making money from it, it's probably better if it goes to sleep.

The only way you get money on gittip is by producing something others think is valuable and want to see more of. People are voting with their money, which is infinitely heavier than voting with HN comments.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by ceejayoz »

j46a1 wrote: post #154
ceejayoz wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prosecutors declining to charge isn't the same as exoneration, as much as a defense lawyer might want to convince you of such.

Prosecutors are very aggressive. Declining to charge means severe lack of evidence. Basically she's a liar.

Bullshit. Prosecutors like their 100% conviction rates, to the point where they lie to judges, manipulate evidence, etc. http://www.propublica.org/article/who-polices-prosecutors-wh...

There are plenty of crimes that don't leave particularly useful evidence. Pointing a gun at someone is illegal, but how do you prove it happened? Same issue in many rape cases.

Cops in some areas also have a history of suppressing reporting and/or evidence to keep crime statistics down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by verelo »

Lets say i have a serious problem i need solved and i see gittip as a great way to encourage someone to do. How do i go from this homepage to giving my money to the person who will solve it? Or is this just for the case where someone has already done great work, and i want them to continue it (literally a tip)?

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by rhizome »

ta140604 wrote: post #81
tshepang wrote: post #22

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Do you have examples of the trolling you talk of?

I believe he was referring to the top two receivers, Shanley [1] and Ashe[2]. These two are a part of the group of very aggressive feminists; there's no official 'group' to speak of (AFAIK), just a network of people supporting each other. Just to give a few names - Alex Gaynor (member of PSF board), Jacob Kaplan-Moss (yep, Django ex-BDFL), Coda Hale (HN/codahale, see his last messages here on HN [3], they're just abo…

Pointing out problems is actually a very important part of any solution. You don't lambaste QA people because they don't actually fix bugs.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by maco »

j46a1 wrote: post #154
ceejayoz wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prosecutors declining to charge isn't the same as exoneration, as much as a defense lawyer might want to convince you of such.

Prosecutors are very aggressive. Declining to charge means severe lack of evidence. Basically she's a liar.

Since more recently published court documents have shown this to be a sexual assault / rape and domestic violence arrest, some statistics are in order.

Particularly relevant is the fact that only 14-18% of sexual assault cases are prosecuted, or 37% for rape alone. http://www.uky.edu/CRVAW/files/TopTen/07_Rape_Prosecution.pd...

Given that, it would actually be highly unusual if he DID go to trial.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by danilocampos »

joaren wrote: post #113
pekk wrote: post #12

Gittip is a nice idea. But sadly, it has become a place for certain people to receive hefty monthly paychecks from anonymous patrons in exchange for incredibly aggressive and toxic trolling. Despite original intentions, this is not making an ecosystem of love and gratitude. So if its creator isn't even making money from it, it's probably better if it goes to sleep.

I never liked Gittip because of how it advertises its top earners and givers... it stops being about rewarding good work and starts to become a game of who can score the most validation points and use them for political gain. Yelling on Twitter and demonizing men for existing is not "promoting empathy and equality". Begging for legal money for your civil lawsuit is not "sustainable crowd funding" (hint: what is she b…

Indeed.

A pox upon the beggars. How dare they ask others to volunteer money for a cause or outcome they believe in.

I call for refunds from:

Pebble

Oculus

Reading Rainbow

Lifx

Double Fine Adventure

Lavabit

Wikileaks

Ron Paul

Barack

May they think carefully in the future before acting in such poor taste.

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