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The boy who stole Half Life 2 source code (2011)

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Re: The boy who stole Half Life 2 source code (2011)

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Why would the leak cause major portions of the engine to need to be rewritten? Seems more likely that it was a convenient excuse.

I don't know. Ask gaben.

So he can act interested in my question, invite me for a friendly discussion over coffee, and then arrange to put me in a cage? Seems like a terrible idea.

Gosh, Valve must hire great PR. I had completely forgotten their overt evil actions around this incident.

Re: The boy who stole Half Life 2 source code (2011)

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Unbelievable. >Swartz was NOT facing anywhere near 35 years in prison. You know why people keep using that number? Because that's the number the attorney's office itself used in its own press release. That's why. But OK, let's be reasonable here. I'll fix it: >"Compare that to the $1 million fine, up to 35 years in prison (followed by 3 years of supervised release) Aaron Swartz was facing" There fixed it. Happy?? I'm…

Macspoofing wrote: You know why people keep using that number? Because that's the number the attorney's office itself used in its own press release. That's why. But OK, let's be reasonable here. I'll fix it: "Compare that to the $1 million fine, up to 35 years in prison (followed by 3 years of supervised release) Aaron Swartz was facing" There fixed it. Happy?? If you had bothered to read the references that were in…

Chiming in as per usual to note that Swartz's own lawyer wrote in a blog post after the tragedy that he believed Swartz was unlikely to receive a custodial sentence of any sort even had he taken the case to trial and been found guilty. It was a non-remunerative computer crime by a first-time offender, both of which are factors considered by the Federal Sentencing Guidelines.

Re: The boy who stole Half Life 2 source code (2011)

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post #149

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Unbelievable. >Swartz was NOT facing anywhere near 35 years in prison. You know why people keep using that number? Because that's the number the attorney's office itself used in its own press release. That's why. But OK, let's be reasonable here. I'll fix it: >"Compare that to the $1 million fine, up to 35 years in prison (followed by 3 years of supervised release) Aaron Swartz was facing" There fixed it. Happy?? I'm…

Macspoofing wrote: You know why people keep using that number? Because that's the number the attorney's office itself used in its own press release. That's why. But OK, let's be reasonable here. I'll fix it: "Compare that to the $1 million fine, up to 35 years in prison (followed by 3 years of supervised release) Aaron Swartz was facing" There fixed it. Happy?? If you had bothered to read the references that were in…

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Re: The boy who stole Half Life 2 source code (2011)

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So you are OK with women police officers dressing up as prostitutes to attract potential costumers and then arresting them on the spot ? That's extremely twisted. There's a reason why in many countries police officers HAVE to wear uniforms.

Why is it twisted?

Because the police should be busy catching criminals instead of trying to trick innocent people into criminal acts when they are not doing any.

Re: The boy who stole Half Life 2 source code (2011)

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Why is it twisted?

Because the police should be busy catching criminals instead of trying to trick innocent people into criminal acts when they are not doing any.

There are two points I want to address here: first, let's be clear that if you commit a crime just because somebody asks you to, it's probably better if the police have you on their radar.

Second: Let's not forget what you were originally complaining about. "The fact that they were setting a trap for him" is what you said.

But it's not really the same sort of trap, is it? In one scenario, you think the police are tricking somebody into committing a crime, so they can be arrested. Sure, that's a valid and interesting discussion to have. But in the other scenario, you're complaining that somebody who has ALREADY committed a crime, and confessed to it on the phone, with no duress, is being tricked into being arrested. That's a very different situation, and I'd be very interested to know why you think that this situation in particular is objectionable. The kid committed a crime; he confessed to it freely. The police got busy catching him; isn't that exactly what you think they should be doing? He's not an innocent person being tricked into a criminal act.

Re: The boy who stole Half Life 2 source code (2011)

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It's a kinda strange thing. Before the digital age kids like myself just did not have access to many things that could get them into so much trouble. I caused my share of mischief when I was a kid, just like most boys will do. Probably the worst tools I had at my disposal were eggs or snowballs to throw at cars. The opportunity for me to reach out from my bedroom and cause damage to a multi-national corporation or go…

You probably didn't have access because you didn't look for it. A kid with the right mindset and a copy of the Anarchist Cookbook or similar could cause a lot of panic and draw a lot of attention. The difference is not access, it's the inherently nonviolent nature of digital. It's easier to get a kid to care about not hurting others than about not hurting an abstract legal entity like a company.

It's probably true there were ways to get yourself into real trouble before the Internet. I guess phone phreaking or calling in threats and such. Still it seems like there's a lot more temptation out there for a kid to cause mischief now that the entire world is wired together.
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