So what's the URL now? Is it thepiratebay.org, or thepiratebay.se? It jumped around so much that it's hard to keep track.
Google usually finds the right one (https://www.google.com/search?q=piratebay)... but of course that could change.
Peter Sunde arrested in Sweden
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Re: Peter Sunde arrested in Sweden
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would the police give two shits about the EU election? I don't know what corrupt hellhole you are from, but Sweden doesn't work like that. Not that it would have been an issue. The Pirate Bay trial is old news and it's hardly a major scandal that a convicted man has to serve his time. As it is, the Pirate Party was wiped out and were far from getting a seat.
As an illustration of how big news this is rated as in Sweden, try to find the news on Aftonbladets front page: http://www.aftonbladet.se/
All I know is that, for some reason, I'm feeling rather shocked after visiting that mess of a site.
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#153I wonder what impact this will have on the development of https://heml.is/ …
Me too (they are in closed beta, at the moment, as far as I know). But I have to admit that I don't appreciate hemlis: a solution like TextSecure, i.e. allowing federation, looks better to me.
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#154Why would Polish police take part in a raid in Sweden?
Because the copyright mafia pays well. edit: what? is there actually a question of whether these actions were born of corruption?
There is no doubt at all about the trial. But as for the arrest, no, no need to bribe anybody to simply execute the sentence.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Together sentenced Pirate Bay founders in addition to prison to pay damages of around 46 million." Yeah, that's never going to happen. The prosecutor in their case came up with some fantastical amount of money TPB is supposed to have made, but it's complete nonsense (see the documentary TPB: AFK for details).
I think you need to do your research. Those guys are pretty packed. Their DC alone is money making like crazy. I know few folks that actually used their hosting services ~2 years ago - their pricing is among highest in industry. Also they have dozens of small projects running. TPB is running ads etc - what would be cost of running, 10 dedicated servers? And what would be the income? Around few hundred thousands?
If running TPB was such a lucrative activity as you assume, why would they hand TPB over to the Pirate Party to run? If you watch the movie (TPB AFK), you'll surely get that they weren't in it for the money, and that they don't even know if they made some money out of it.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
D'Oh! How could I miss that that's totally the same, right down to the draconian fines, prison sentences, and SWAT raids.
So if the penalties were reduced to the same penalties for GPL violations, you'd be all for it?
In this particular case, I think that's about right: The RIAA/MPAA publishers should consider Pirate Bay disreputable and everyone else can make up their own mind whether to do business with them or not. That's how GPL violations work in practice.
That's about how O'Reilly views people posting downloads of O'Reilly authors' books. That's why they don't use content protection on the e-books they sell. Content protection mechanisms are poisoning computing.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the end, it's not about 'making copies'. You're obtaining entertainment without paying the required fee to the entertainer (vast majority of torrented stuff is entertainment). You're using a service without the required recompense. You can perhaps argue that semantically sharing is better likened to 'fare evasion' on public transport, but they're semantically similar crimes: taking something which you're meant to…
> In the end, it's not about 'making copies'. Yes it is, it very much is. > You're obtaining entertainment Right. Obtaining copies of recorded entertainment . > You're using a service I might be using the "service" provided by the peers who willingly and voluntarily partake in creating copies, with or without requiring a fee. There is no "entertainer" performing a show. He's not serving me. He's not fulfilling any re…
Just noticing: The bus would also drive there if you wouldn't enter it, and assuming the bus isn't full, you're not even costing the public transport company anything.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
> supporting theivery on a massive scale? That depends on your attitude. Only a very small minority of content creators make a living from that activity. Some people are always going to be cheapskates of varying degrees. Unless they are actually manufacturing and selling counterfeit copies of my books, in my view it doesn't rise to the level of a tort, much less a crime. Google indexes downloads of my books. What con…
Why do you not post TPB links to your books alongside the amazon links in your profile? Do you not want your sales to go up?
If you search my first name on Google, the first downloads of Programming Android appear on the third page of results. Not convenient enough for you? And what did I say about asking for a review copy?
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually no, what I'm saying is that what I choose to say to a friend should not be subject to a third party that demands to listen in. If my friend betrays my trust and shares the contents of that communication, then I can't do much about that. You're right that I've described a tradeoff and simply assumed the case is closed - I mean, where does this right to privacy come from even? And to me, the answer that settle…
> Actually no, what I'm saying is that what I choose to say to a friend should not be subject to a third party that demands to listen in. So when you're "saying something" to a friend that is gigabytes of an exact copy of a movie that somebody else created, why should you be the only one having complete control over it? Trust me, the "third party" has no interest in listening in to what you have to say if you are "sa…
While people keep knocking you down for trolling, I think that's actually a really good point.
I don't equate "piracy" to theft (or piracy, for that matter), but I think we're culturally trapped in a very curious mindset. I don't think anyone would argue that the value in a movie or television show or book or any other creative work lies solely in the cost to reproduce a copy -- if anything, we'd be more likely to argue that the cost to reproduce it is incidental to its value. To me, the logical outcome of that is that we should pay for copies of creative materials regardless of the marginal cost because that's never really been what we were paying for in the first place -- and it seems perfectly reasonable to me that, thus, we should honor the wishes of the creators when it comes to price (or the people the creators have ostensibly delegated that responsibility to, i.e., publishers and distributors). But instead we're often arguing that if the cost to copy is effectively zero, the creators and publishers are unreasonable authoritarian police state thugs for saying, "Hey, the cost of the copy isn't where the value lies, and if you're going to enjoy our work you should still pay us."
And, yes, I know all the arguments about publishers (and creators) making unreasonable demands, but I think that makes the line even murkier, not clearer. We don't say "the price you're asking for this physical object is unreasonable, so I'm just taking it without paying for it at all"; why do we think it's fair to say "the price you're asking for this digital object is unreasonable, so I'm making a copy without paying for it?" Yes, the cost to do so is zero, but the value isn't derived from the reproduction cost.