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Re: Firefox 29

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Post by DSMan195276 »

barrkel wrote: post #131
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're cutting down on unnecessary chrome. I can't say I have a problem with it; less chrome means more room for page content. A bit like why Apple added fullscreen apps.

I run Firefox with a lot of plugins. I rely on the status bar (add-on bar) to keep many of the plugin notification / configuration buttons out of my toolbar. From my perspective, Firefox is working hard to drive me away, by removing its distinguishing features that make it different from Chrome.

You should keep in mind that the use-case for Firefox is that the default install focuses on the general user, and add-ons are intended for people looking for something extra/different. You can get the add-on bar back easy by grabbing the 'classic theme restorer' add-on. It allows enabling-disabling a variety of features.

I can't say I agree with all of their choices, but I'm running 29 right now and I don't feel like any functionality or customizability is lost from the last version. If you're not looking for the defaults you can change pretty much everything you want with a few add-ons and about 10 minutes or so of configuration.

Re: Firefox 29

#152

Post by shmerl »

About Australis:

Good:

* Menu bar is hidden by default on Linux and can be opened with Alt (that didn't work before).

Bad:

* Menu ("Firefox") button is still not movable for no obvious reason.

* Reload/Stop button is now forced to be in the URL bar (before users had a choice where to place it). That's pretty annoying, it's very uncomfortable when Back/Forward and Reload buttons are so far apart.

* Bookmarks button is now outside the URL bar and looks bulky.

Re: Firefox 29

#153

Post by creatio »

maxerickson wrote: post #136
potch wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, we made extra sure this add-on got updated. Lots of TST users at Mozilla :)

Do I have to install an add on to get narrow tabs? This is like the 3rd or 4th time that minimum tab width settings have been changed. I understand the motivation to change the experience for the typical user. I don't understand the constant churn in what is customizable. If I customized the location of the reload/stop button last time it was moved, is the thought really that I won't want to this time? I guess there…

How do I change it back? I can't seem to reposition it on the address bar :S

Re: Firefox 29

#154

Post by maxerickson »

abus wrote: post #58
exodust wrote: post #13

What's this about the status bar / add-on bar gone? The main reason why I use Status-4-Evar is because when I hover over a link I don't want that link to pop-over the page content, which is what Chrome did first, then Firefox copied like sheep. It's distracting, like a tiny little pop-over in the corner of your eye. I like having URLs show in a status bar separate to the main web window. It's out of the way, and I ju…

I agree with you. There is an addon to correct it though: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemer...

If it is official, they should verify the author.

(Or admit that the notification that the author is not verified is meaningless)

edit: Also, on my install, the version there makes Firefox 29 lock up when I click on options. But my profile is pretty ancient.

Re: Firefox 29

#155

Post by berberous »

potch wrote: post #28
Narretz wrote: post #6

the only question: will tree style tabs work as before?

Yes, we made extra sure this add-on got updated. Lots of TST users at Mozilla :)

Except Tree Style Tabs makes Firefox 29 look very bad. For some reason, it causes the top part of the chrome to be two shades of gray. The area with the title, and minimize maximize buttons, its one shade, and then the area with the address bar and buttons is another shade of gray. With a harsh line where the two areas meet and are a different color.

Re: Firefox 29

#156

Post by JonnieCache »

andreis1 wrote: post #104
dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

Wrt the 'omnibox vs address-and-search' conundrum: why not just let the user decide in Settings, defaulting on omnibox?

There's an extension that gives you a chrome style omnibox. It works fine, except I can't use tab to search within sites like in chrome. If anyone knows how I can get this in FF, I'd be very appreciative.

Re: Firefox 29

#157

Post by maxerickson »

creatio wrote: post #153
maxerickson wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do I have to install an add on to get narrow tabs? This is like the 3rd or 4th time that minimum tab width settings have been changed. I understand the motivation to change the experience for the typical user. I don't understand the constant churn in what is customizable. If I customized the location of the reload/stop button last time it was moved, is the thought really that I won't want to this time? I guess there…

How do I change it back? I can't seem to reposition it on the address bar :S

I don't know!

I guess the new thing is that they want anything they don't think is a primary feature in an add on, so I expect that's what it will take.

It was just another change to complain about.

Re: Firefox 29

#158

Post by shmerl »

Nux wrote: post #147

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ - Halleluya! Finally the 64bit builds for Linux are listed. Every god damn time I had to install I had to go in ftp.mozilla.org ... About 5 years late, but better than never. :-)

Yeah, that always surprised me. 64 bit Linux builds are available for a long time already.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by ninkendo »

In the screenshot, they misspelled Mozilla as "Mozila" in the tab title. (At least on OSX... maybe they tailor the screenshot depending on your user agent.)

Re: Firefox 29

#160

Post by benaston »

Open new tab. The recent sites are displayed. Enter a url and hit return. The website is displayed. Now try and click the back button to return to the recent sites list... You can't, the back button is disabled. Despite the profession of attention to detail this speaks otherwise.
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