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The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Shit, I should probably move to DO. I've been running a Linode for like two years, and have only ever used it once, yet I keep getting billed.

They introduced hourly billing like a week ago :)

As long as you have a Linode provisioned, you'll be charged for it even if you're not using it. The hourly billing is just a simplification of their old system, where they would charge a prorated amount when a server is created based on how far into the month you are and issue a credit when a server is deleted based on how far from the end of the month you are. The net financial impact for a given server setup is about the same (+/- a few hours' worth of usage).

(Just to be clear, Digital Ocean works the same way. They're charging you for the resource allocation and associated maintenance. If you choose to not actually use the allocation you're paying for, that's your business.)

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#153

Why do I pay Linode $20/month instead of paying DO $5/month(1)? Because Linode treats their servers like kittens (upgrades, addons/options, support), and DO treats their servers like cattle. There's nothing wrong with the cattle model of managing servers. But I'm not using Chef or Puppet, I just have one server that I use to put stuff up on the internet and host a few services. And Linode treats that one solitary ser…

>I just have one server that I use to put stuff up on the internet and host a few services. And Linode treats that one solitary server better than any other VPS host in the world.

I use DO for this and have used many others in the past and I have never had any problems with DO...

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#154
post #139

I have mixed feelings about this. We're in the process of moving from Linode to Rackspace but haven't flicked the switch just yet - was planning to this weekend. Our Linode server (16 GB plan) has been performing terrible lately wrt I/O (compared to, say, a Macbook Pro running the same computations), and we decided we've had enough. I guess we'll have to compare the two after the upgrade and decide.

Did you ever put in a support ticket? I've had I/O performance issues with Linode boxes before and it's always been quickly fixed when they are notified.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#157
post #110
post #55

I forgot to benchmark the disk before I upgraded but here are some simple disk benchmarks on an upgraded linode (the $20 plan, now with SSD) $ dd bs=1M count=1024 if=/dev/zero of=test conv=fdatasync 1024+0 records in 1024+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 1.31593 s, 816 MB/s $ hdparm -tT /dev/xvda /dev/xvda: Timing cached reads: 19872 MB in 1.98 seconds = 10020.63 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 2558…

Throughput speed is not everything, in many situations latency is more important. Can you give results for this? dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=512 count=1500 oflag=dsync I'm getting "6.40264 s, 120 kB/s" on my laptop's SSD, but on a proper server with a RAID card and cache enabled I get "0.187033 s, 4.1 MB/s".

dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=512 count=1500 oflag=dsync 768000 bytes (768 kB) copied, 0.3325 s, 2.3 MB/s

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#159

Why do I pay Linode $20/month instead of paying DO $5/month(1)? Because Linode treats their servers like kittens (upgrades, addons/options, support), and DO treats their servers like cattle. There's nothing wrong with the cattle model of managing servers. But I'm not using Chef or Puppet, I just have one server that I use to put stuff up on the internet and host a few services. And Linode treats that one solitary ser…

>I just have one server that I use to put stuff up on the internet and host a few services. And Linode treats that one solitary server better than any other VPS host in the world. I use DO for this and have used many others in the past and I have never had any problems with DO...

Anecdotally, I get notifications of maintenance outages every month with DO in NYC1 and NYC2. These are exceedingly, exceedingly rare with Linode's Atlanta DC.

Also, stolen CPU on my DO boxes is super high, whereas this is very rare on Linode. You have less neighbors.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#160
post #5

It looks like Linode are still leaving the "incredibly cheap tiny box" market to DO. Linode's cheapest option is $20/month, which makes it slightly less useful for the kind of "so cheap you don't even think about it" boxes that DO provide.

As someone who has used both Linode and "low end box" services, both have their place. Two observations: 1) I feel like Linode offers a level of support that the others don't offer. There are lower end providers that do offer good support, but it's not as consistently good as Linode. Were they to start offering cheaper $5 or $10 a month plans, they would be challenged when it comes to continuing to offer that level o…

I agree with this. I have a few DO accounts, a Linode and a few BuyVM accounts. The Linode is what I use for all of my "serious" production stuff, but I love the LEBs to play.

That said, I do think the performance of DO is quite good. It reminds me of Slicehost back in the day.

The BuyVM guys are just the best people ever, and I mostly maintain play boxes there just b/c I can get away with stuff there that might not fly at DO or Linode.

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